Brazing?
Simon0362 | 02/07/2023 21:18:40 |
279 forum posts 91 photos | The photos show a small and delicately cast bell in cast iron which didn’t survive being dropped onto the tiled floor. Looking closely, it appears that a crack was already in existence and the fall simply finished the job. One side of the break is mildly corroded, the other bright. any thoughts gratefully received.
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Michael Gilligan | 02/07/2023 21:44:50 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | My approach … after appropriate cleaning, would be to place a series of paillons of [jeweller’s style] Silver Solder in the joint, then bind it with soft Iron wire, and heat the lot in one go. MichaelG. . Oops … I missed the reference to it being Cast Iron Edited By Michael Gilligan on 02/07/2023 21:56:20 |
bernard towers | 02/07/2023 21:48:19 |
1221 forum posts 161 photos | Manganese bronze is good for cast iron repairs. |
Nick Wheeler | 02/07/2023 21:48:47 |
1227 forum posts 101 photos | It's never going to ring again(although I doubt a thin cast iron bell ever did more than clonk), so epoxy the broken bit back. |
Dalboy | 02/07/2023 21:51:47 |
![]() 1009 forum posts 305 photos | If it is just a decorative item will soft solder be a good option or as above epoxy resin which will mean that very little touch up of the paint. |
noel shelley | 02/07/2023 22:22:39 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | Few metals will bond or wet with cast iron very well. IF this item is only decorative I would use an epoxy after good cleaning. Any form of soldering or brazing and the heat used may well crack on cooling. Noel |
Steviegtr | 02/07/2023 22:24:35 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | I guess you could just JB weld it. Saves any heat Steve. |
Stueeee | 02/07/2023 23:01:57 |
![]() 144 forum posts | Posted by bernard towers on 02/07/2023 21:48:19:
Manganese bronze is good for cast iron repairs. That's what I've always used, vee out whichever side you are going to braze, Manganese Bronze will run like Silver solder when the job is up to red heat. use standard brazing flux with the filler rod. |
Ady1 | 02/07/2023 23:21:52 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | pinkgrip |
Speedy Builder5 | 03/07/2023 06:32:33 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | If you are going to attempt silver solder or braze, you need to heat to red heat, let it cool and then give the mating surfaces a good brush with a fine wire brush to remove surface carbon, then proceed with the braze or whatever. However, I would advise the 'owner' that it could be a complete failure and worse off than in its present state should the process fail. Good luck and tell us what happened next. Bob |
David George 1 | 03/07/2023 07:35:11 |
![]() 2110 forum posts 565 photos | This is a repair using bronze brazing rod on a cast base of a steam engine. It was heated a bright red heat and used Sifbronze flux. It was filed up afterwards and you couldn't see the repair after painting. David
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Simon0362 | 03/07/2023 07:44:57 |
279 forum posts 91 photos | Thanks for all the advice. Discussions with the owner have pushed me towards a brazed fix. Watch this space for updates and photos ! Simon |
vic newey | 03/07/2023 09:29:09 |
![]() 347 forum posts 173 photos | A simple repair; that would not ruin the patina as would any form heat with soldering/brazing etc; is cyanoacrylate superglue. |
noel shelley | 03/07/2023 10:03:34 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | Simon, if your going to braze make sure you have a high temperature flux, silver solder flux is unlikely to last long enough to get up the heat. Noel. |
martin haysom | 03/07/2023 10:27:10 |
![]() 165 forum posts | just glue it the old crack ment it did dot ring before it got dropped |
Dave Halford | 03/07/2023 11:35:29 |
2536 forum posts 24 photos | Posted by Simon0362 on 03/07/2023 07:44:57:
Thanks for all the advice. Discussions with the owner have pushed me towards a brazed fix. Watch this space for updates and photos ! Simon What colour did they want it back in? |
vic newey | 03/07/2023 12:17:46 |
![]() 347 forum posts 173 photos | Brazing will ruin it, just glue it |
noel shelley | 03/07/2023 12:41:55 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | The customer is always right ! BUT Vic is right, heating it will ruin it ! Noel. |
old mart | 03/07/2023 15:09:48 |
4655 forum posts 304 photos | I would glue it with epoxy. Scrape back any external witness and repaint. The glue will be as strong as brazing if the bell cannot withstand dropping on a floor and you would still have to repaint it if it were brazed, and the external brazing would be much harder to disguise. |
Nicholas Farr | 03/07/2023 15:40:31 |
![]() 3988 forum posts 1799 photos | Hi, you could re-cast it, but you would have to add more metal to the melt, oh! but you'd be adding more metal anyway if it's brazed. I agree with others, and I would glue it. Regards Nick. |
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