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Stub Mandrel02/06/2013 22:07:14
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I bought a very tiny indexable boring bar at one of the shows. It had a 3/16" shank and a tiny triangular insert. Once I understood how to set and use it it was very good, but I overdrove it and broke the end off :-/

Has anyone any idea where I could get one?

Thanks

Neil

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Stub Mandrel05/06/2013 20:05:56
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Has no-one got any ideas...?

Neil

NJH05/06/2013 20:13:30
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Don't get excited now Neil - I'm often clueless- but surely a man of your experience wouldn't find making a replacement too arduous?

Norman

jason udall05/06/2013 20:35:11
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Sorry..but at first post didn't get what you needed
..and for a change wanted to not advertise my lack of understanding. ..what do you need..torx screw ..insert ...boring bar of tiny E clip?
Ian P05/06/2013 20:55:52
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Neil

Did you take the picture before you broke it, or is the damage not visible?

Sorry I cannot help you find a supplier, I'm presuming you have tried all the usual suspects without success. My smallest one is 8mm Diameter (Iscar, I think) which is positively huge compared with your 5mm one.

What size tips does it take?

Ian P

Bazyle05/06/2013 22:19:54
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Perhaps you can look up the show website and if it has a list of exhibitors then check their websites. Or was it a few years ago?

This any good?

S.D.L.05/06/2013 22:47:09
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Assuming the insert is broken. What is the length of the triangle in mm?

Steve

MadMike05/06/2013 23:20:17
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RDG offer a 6mm dia shank indexable tip boring bar. Simply turn the shank down to 3/16 dia if it is critical. HTH.

MichaelR06/06/2013 08:33:12
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Some years ago I made a set of small boring bars and holders from a casting kit Here they hold the small bars very firmly and which helps stop flexing which can cause the breakage of tips, I'm sure they could be adapted to be used with the small indexed tipped bars now available.

methusala06/06/2013 09:12:32
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Hi Neil,

Have you tried j.b. cutting tools., I bought some small i.e. .110 dia shank and.156 to tool tip

boring bars from them in the past. you would have to make a special holder for them as

they have a near eliptical shaped end on them. Total lenght of bar is just over 1.125

with the working lenght being .625.

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speelwerk06/06/2013 10:09:51
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There is no price mentioned so will not be cheap, Niko **LINK**

Stub Mandrel06/06/2013 21:09:01
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Thanks everyone. the original bar went ping at the screwhole and the tip flew away and was never seen again, so no way to measure it

It was about 5mm on each side, at a guess. The screw was tiny.

I'm sure it was only about £4 at an MMEX one year.

I have the world's ugliest boring bar made from a bent old HSS drill and it does the same jobs, but less elegantly! Thing is I have a nice QCTP holder with a 3/16" hole in it... so maybe make a new one from HSS.

Neil

Ian S C07/06/2013 14:11:06
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Neil, I'v made a bar about that size, for a carbide tip I used a carbide tip from a circular saw blade brazed on the end of a bar made from a bit of steel that was a bit stiffer than a plain mild steel. Same system works OK for normal lathe tools. Ian S C

Harold Hall 107/06/2013 14:43:42
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As you already have a holder for round shank boring tools Neil you may find the following of interest, as may others, as it deals with shaping and sharpening very small boring tools having round shanks.

**LINK**

Will not though be able to comment further as I will be away from the PC for three weeks.

Harold

colin hawes07/06/2013 16:30:06
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Most of my small boring is done with home made silver steel boring bars.Can be made very hard. Colin

Steve Withnell07/06/2013 18:30:53
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Can't remember what for, but I did grind a piece of 1/8 HSS for use as a tiny boring bar. Obviously, you can't one a foot long at that cross section

Robert Dodds15/06/2013 21:28:15
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Neil,

I realise this thread is a bit cold now but I had a trade flier through this week offering ISO mini boring bar sets down to 5.5mm dia (with through coolant) but they wanted £178 on offer +vat.

Elsewhere I spotted **LINK**
The lower example on that page is also down to 5.5mm dia. and on other pages they offer inserts too. The price is a bit more reasonable but more than I would spend.

Bob D

Stub Mandrel16/06/2013 14:12:08
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Thanks Bob,

A bit beyond my budget, but usefiul as I'd missed Harold's link.

I think I'll experiment with HSS tools, but the tipped one was so easy to use

neil

Ian S C16/06/2013 14:28:22
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You could try brazing either a chip off an old tool, or find an old carbide tip circular saw blade onto your old tool, might be worth trying. Ian S C

mechman4816/06/2013 17:50:22
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Neil,

I've made a couple of mini boring bars from old broken taps, centre drill, & picked up a couple of Carbide borers from CNC machines (centre cooling) from somewhere many moons ago..

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.. broken tap & centre drill boring bars, the one in the holder is 1/4" carbide, the bottom right is also carbide.. tip dia 0.114". hopefully you can make them out..seem to have forgotton how to set macro on camera.(.it's there somewhere but couldn't find it on menu)?..  so don't dispair you can always make a boring bar out of something.

George

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