Transport Innovation (it says)
Fowlers Fury | 30/10/2020 15:01:01 |
![]() 446 forum posts 88 photos | Lockdown Distractions? I yeald to none in my ignorance of basic physics but this short video, sent by a model engineering friend, even to me clearly contradicted Newton's 3rd Law:- I was only sent the vid not the YouTube link so it took a little tracking down. The posted comments explain ...but perhaps amusing nevertheless? Another time-waster spotted on YouTube below. Perhaps I feel less concerned about my wasted workshop time now:-
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Neil Wyatt | 30/10/2020 17:57:13 |
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Mick B1 | 30/10/2020 18:42:45 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | So those carts constructed by Dennis The Menace and the Bash Street Kids out of a pram-wheeled buggy and a hand-cranked windmill blowing into a sail would've worked after all? I've missed out on a whole potential field of engineering... Edited By Mick B1 on 30/10/2020 18:44:16 |
JA | 30/10/2020 18:46:19 |
![]() 1605 forum posts 83 photos | I don't think he could patent it. The big boys have got there first. It is very similar to the reverse thrust on a jet engine. JA |
Watford | 30/10/2020 18:51:30 |
![]() 142 forum posts 11 photos | Who is going to be the first here to try it out?
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Pete Rimmer | 30/10/2020 19:08:23 |
1486 forum posts 105 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 30/10/2020 17:57:13:
I think that the air blower is turning the brolly into a circular wing. Air can only be spilled over the trailing edge of the brolly which is dragging otherwise still air from in front over the curved surface, The speed increase over the outside surface is causing a low pressure zone i'e' 'lift' which provides the forward motion. |
Grindstone Cowboy | 30/10/2020 19:19:55 |
1160 forum posts 73 photos | Electric skateboard - in the initial pictures there's just four castors on the bucket, in the later shots there's definitely something more underneath. Rob |
Michael Briggs | 30/10/2020 19:57:47 |
221 forum posts 12 photos | The engine of the blower increases the kinetic energy of the intake air so the air output has more energy than the air input. The umbrella is a distraction, the force of the air output from the blower pushes against it providing thrust. He would be better off ditching the umbrella and just pointing the blower to the rear leaving a spare hand to watch rubbish on the internet. |
Pete Rimmer | 30/10/2020 19:58:20 |
1486 forum posts 105 photos | Posted by Grindstone Cowboy on 30/10/2020 19:19:55:
Electric skateboard - in the initial pictures there's just four castors on the bucket, in the later shots there's definitely something more underneath. Rob Yes you're right, it's got a powered skateboard underneath. Cute :D |
JA | 30/10/2020 20:08:12 |
![]() 1605 forum posts 83 photos | It would be interesting to see if he could move, without the electric skate board and umbrella, by using the blower alone. It reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson’s attempt at using a CO2 fire extinguisher to propel himself on a similar buggy. JA Edited By JA on 30/10/2020 20:09:04 |
Fowlers Fury | 30/10/2020 20:43:56 |
![]() 446 forum posts 88 photos | I should have made it clearer in the first post. |
Michael Gilligan | 30/10/2020 22:38:21 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Presumably our Janitorial hero watched Barbarella https://youtu.be/dD0bBj_e5B4 MichaelG. |
Zan | 30/10/2020 22:59:24 |
356 forum posts 25 photos | Perhaps I’m not understanding this. A jet engine produces thrust to an aircraft by pointing backwards, pushing the plane in the opposite direction this idea seems to say if you tie a parachute to the output of the engine, then the plane will fly backwards Forces work in Equal and opposite directions |
Sam Stones | 31/10/2020 00:25:49 |
![]() 922 forum posts 332 photos | Without the skateboard, steering on castors would be near impossible. I’m with Pete and assert clearly it's reverse thrust. Sam |
not done it yet | 31/10/2020 07:23:01 |
7517 forum posts 20 photos | Isn’t it Newton’s Second Law. Different forces in the two directions providing a resultant acceleration (until the opposing forces are equal) - when Newton’s First Law will apply? However, the acceleration and terminal speed would not be anywhere near as great had he not cheated with the powered skateboard.🙂 |
John Haine | 31/10/2020 08:10:22 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | So DC9s have rear jet engines and apply reverse thrust with pivoted scoops that hinge into the jet stream. I've seen them at O'Hare back off the stand using reverse thrust. How does that work? Edited By John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:15:07 |
Mick B1 | 31/10/2020 09:38:47 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | Posted by John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:10:22:
So DC9s have rear jet engines and apply reverse thrust with pivoted scoops that hinge into the jet stream. I've seen them at O'Hare back off the stand using reverse thrust. How does that work? Edited By John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:15:07 Not very efficiently and maybe straight-line only. The clamshells divert the exhaust stream forward. They do it on landing too - hard, especially on short runways. Lot of force on those pivots. |
Ady1 | 31/10/2020 09:42:30 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Works better when the earth is flat
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Meunier | 31/10/2020 15:22:13 |
448 forum posts 8 photos | Posted by John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:10:22:
So DC9s have rear jet engines and apply reverse thrust with pivoted scoops that hinge into the jet stream. I've seen them at O'Hare back off the stand using reverse thrust. How does that work? Edited By John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:15:0 Such manoeuvering procedures mostly banned these days for both rear and wing mounted engines, experience found that engines were being damaged by FOD thrown up by reverser efflux was being ingested into the engine air intakes - cheaper to call for a tug. |
Mick B1 | 31/10/2020 15:48:09 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | Posted by Meunier on 31/10/2020 15:22:13:
Posted by John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:10:22:
So DC9s have rear jet engines and apply reverse thrust with pivoted scoops that hinge into the jet stream. I've seen them at O'Hare back off the stand using reverse thrust. How does that work? Edited By John Haine on 31/10/2020 08:15:0 Such manoeuvering procedures mostly banned these days for both rear and wing mounted engines, experience found that engines were being damaged by FOD thrown up by reverser efflux was being ingested into the engine air intakes - cheaper to call for a tug. Why wouldn't that happen on runway braking? Is it kept cleaner of random debris? |
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