'Modifications' banned

So only an "approved" manufacturer could be considered "orthodox"? sounds like another law dreamt up for the purposes of walking on the little man.

Aside from this opinion, the practicality of policing this seems unfair, there are far more worthy causes to be chasing and could you really label someone a "criminal" for modifying something they legally obtained? Just doesn't seem like you could get anyone to agree on what constitutes a mod anyway. This could get into silly territory, does the air freshener on the dash or the repair to one of the hinges on the glove box mean i'm now "modifying" this?

This is what the M.O.T was designed to cater for anyway. 

Michael W

Edited By Michael Walters on 11/04/2016 11:50:47

Why do so many people run down the Daily Mail. Discounting the Sun - which is after all just a comic- the Daily Mail has the country's highest circulation. So something it does must suit the population. Or do those that berate the DM think that the entire population has less sense than them?

I like it by the way!!

No doubt the rest of Europe will ignore it, Britain however, will employ 2000 civil servants to enforce it!

David

The idea that numbskulls in Brussels could dictate what I choose to do to my car quite frankly makes me want to be sick. I hesitate to bring in politics to this forum, but the sooner we are out of this Euro-shambles the better. As far as what I might wish to do to my car is concerned, surely its between me, my insurers, and the MOT engineer, with due respect to the laws of Britain - not the laws as dictated by clueless Euro-politicians.

As mentioned Germany has been down this route for a while, Amongst other things you are only allowed to fit tyre makes approved and listed by the vehicle manufacturers.. Also applies to the winter tyres they have to compulsory fit over the winter months. Motorcycle manufacturers don't list winter tyres for their machines so effectively you don't see a bike on the roads for those months no matter how mild it might be.

My poor old mum believes everything she reads in the Daily Mail and every week my sister and I spend about half an hour each trying to calm her down. The Mail is a jolly good read if you like a good sprinkling of overheated reports about health issues, crime, lefties, bad neighbours, or the misdoings of young people, minority groups, Europe, China, and foreigners. The spoof headline "Rumanian Supermarket Trolleys Cause Cancer" is a parody of the Mail style, but I feel it sums them up quite neatly.

Sam's defence fails if you substitute "Pravda" or Der Sturmer" for the Daily Mail. Thus "Pravda has the country's highest circulation. So something it does must suit the population. Or do those that berate Pravda think that the entire population has less sense than them?" Yes, especially during Stalin's time.

I don't think anyone should be embarrassed by enjoying the Daily Mail provided they read it critically. Many other papers and periodicals have agendas too. If you really want to know what's going on you have to wade through all of them.

Cheers,

Dave

Try reading through their list of everything that causes cancer then decide whether to believe their reporting or not.

Russell.

Numskulls in Brussells or in London. What's the difference? You vote for your representative for both.

Russell.

IMHO pretty much all politicians are clueless. A tiny proportion of them have any experience of the real world or real people's problems.

The whole EU debate centres around which band of "clueless politicians" should be in charge, or have the sovereignty over our affairs, and the various newspapers have their own favourite band of clueless politicians they can "manage" or more likely "knock" in order to sell more newspapers.

...because the views it espouses are considered by many to be small minded and parochial perhaps?

It's old but still funny...

The Times:

Read by the people who run the country.

Daily Mirror:

Read by the people who think they run the country.

Guardian:

Read by the people who think they ought to run the country.

Morning Star:

Read by the people who think the country ought to be run by another country.

Daily Mail:

Read by the wives of the people who own the country.

Financial Times:

Read by the people who own the country.

Daily Express:

Read by the people who think that the country ought to be run as it used to be.

Daily Telegraph:

Read by the people who think it still is.

The Sun:

Their readers don't care who runs the country as long as she has big tits.

Jon

70 odd years ago my parents taught me to never believe anything I read in the papers. It is still true today.

There is a real cracker coming up at the moment. Typical as well. £8,000,000 for a leaflet. What a headline.

No mention that there are 26 1/2 million households in the UK or if leaflets should be sent out. I've not read it yet and can imagine what the next one will say.

My son was disgusted by the cost. Probably a typical reaction, something to get excited about. He went very quiet when I asked him how many households there are. Sub 33p including postage is an amazing achievement.

The Beeb reckon £9m and 34p per house - on the web.

John

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I will cross out the address on mine, write in the senders address and put "return to sender" on it

Then pop it in the box while I'm out with fido

Edited By Ady1 on 11/04/2016 14:35:18

The Daily Mail is best, for the cartoons. What else and I am sure that is what puts up the circulation plus one other thing, the crossword on the back page as the only one I can do.

Clive

I found out for myself as I did read them. A strike that made national news. I could go to work each day and hear what was actually going on. Even why it happened, or made to happen in this case. Then there was the so called earnings of people working on the line at Leyland and other similar places - in your dreams would be the best thing to say about the figures. Since then I treat any news with some caution where ever it comes from.

John

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The Daily Mail is very cleverly aimed at women, this is why it is so successful

I'd like to modify the attitude of one scooter rider who constantly goes up and down our road seeing how many times per second he can turn his throttle handle through it's full detents!! Why are thes small engined bikes so b****y noisy

Fine body of men, when was the last time you had to bribe a British public servant!

Excessive employment of civil servants is a popular misconception. About 400,000 civil service jobs have gone since 1975. These people weren't doing nothing, their work was transferred to the private sector and it is still being paid for by the taxpayer.

Privatisation often worked well, but there are plenty of examples were services were disrupted, standards dropped, and costs increased.

If a real civil servant is giving you a hard time remember they don't make the rules: they are obliged to implement government policy, even if it's stupid.

Regards,

Dave

This is all hysteria. We have been here before. Last time, a few years ago, quite a few organisations spent a lot of money lobbying the EU about this one and winning (except in Germany).

The EU is a pro-active organisation and has to consider serious proposals. For example when the European car manufacturers make a proposal to ban all cars over 10 years old from the roads of Europe so that they can sell more cars the EU has to consider it. If the proposal sneaks in without the lobbying organisations noticing, it would be accepted and that would be the end of historic vehicle use in Europe. Although I do not like the Daily Mail it does do us a service pointing out these stories. It also tends to cry wolf though.

A thought, a few years ago the EU wanted us to stop using no-metric nut and bolts. With this new scare the repair of anything with Whitworth and BSF fittings could have been a modification and thus be banned.

Enough politics?

JA

That might affect the French standard pipe fitting, which curiously is physically the same as BSP albeit designated in metric rather than inches

On the subject of the Daily Mail **LINK**

Edited By Martin 100 on 11/04/2016 15:24:34