Neil Wyatt | 29/03/2020 12:30:39 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | I got this update from Arc today: In the last few weeks, COVID-19 has turned the world upside down, leaving the future uncertain and frightening. |
Steviegtr | 29/03/2020 12:33:16 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | Well I hope they & other companies can survive this era in History. Steve. |
Adam Mara | 29/03/2020 12:47:34 |
198 forum posts 1 photos | My sons closed our business down on Friday, they think we can survive around 20 weeks. Biggest worry is how many of our self employed and small business customers will be still trading when we return. How many more of the suppliers for our hobby will have to follow ARC's decision over the next few weeks? |
Steviegtr | 29/03/2020 12:55:15 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | This whole miserable time is going to cascade for so many years. With companies going under & of course new enterprise starting up. It has happened a few times before has it not. Recessions etc. Steve. |
Howard Lewis | 29/03/2020 13:40:36 |
7227 forum posts 21 photos | Sad but understandable. Lets hope that all our suppliers can survive this terrible time. They d eserve to! Howard |
mechman48 | 29/03/2020 13:46:50 |
![]() 2947 forum posts 468 photos | Sad times but understandable; but when you think about it where do all/most of their supplies come from... China !! George. |
Bill Dawes | 29/03/2020 14:30:00 |
605 forum posts | i wonder if this episode of our life will wake us up to over reliance on imported manufactures goods. Maybe we will realise that financial services are not the only important part of the economy. Exporting is of course important to most economies so one countries export is somebody else's import and vice versa but we need a better balance. Bill D. |
Ian Johnson 1 | 29/03/2020 14:55:17 |
381 forum posts 102 photos | Are they sending out orders recieved before they shut down? |
Vic | 29/03/2020 15:13:16 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | I find this a little surprising to be honest but it does of course depend on individual circumstances. I’m still ordering and receiving items from companies that provide that in no way can be called essential products. I can understand why you wouldn’t want to risk employing the normal number of staff but surely some of these small companies can carry on with limited staff? if I was an owner of a small company I’d at least try to ship out orders on my own rather than give up. |
Graham Swales | 29/03/2020 15:53:23 |
36 forum posts | I have no doubt that my reply will invoke the usual suspects ranting about "Elfin Safety" however. Every business has a duty of care to all its employees, Part of the duty of care is the production of a risk assessment which considers how "an event" may impact either directly or indirectly on an employee or employer. I work for a company manufacturing large special purpose vehicles and on the face of it one would think we would be able to carry on as business as usual, but it isn't that simple. Consider the basic advice offered by the Government and Medical advisers:- 1) Maintain 2m separation at all times. 2) Provide means of hand washing and sanitising. 3) Only continue to work if it is essential. In the environment I work, the 2m separation cannot be maintained at all times - we have doors with no visibility panels - two persons could meet. Large components need two or more to handle, tools are used by more than one person, items need to be collected and delivered from stores, first aid needs to be provided, Washrooms would need rearranging, we would need to be sanitising constantly. Is our work essential - in terms of the shareholders yes - in terms of the end users yes - but essential enough to put persons at risk? No. Now although I have used ARC on numerous occasions and I must admit that I have never actually visited Ketan's premises, I have the greatest respect for him. Is model engineering equipment "essential" hardly. Will he be able to satisfy a realistic risk assessment? Hardly. In the end, why expose himself or his staff to any potential risk? I will now get my tin hat on, ready for a verbal onslaught! Stay safe. Grum
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jimmy b | 29/03/2020 16:07:28 |
![]() 857 forum posts 45 photos | In the coming days, I expect more companies to close. Very big companies consider themselves to be "essential", as Grum says, this is more about profits and their place in a market.
As this situation continues, I question my company's stance on staying open, we have lost 25% of our workforce, so far.
Jim |
Former Member | 29/03/2020 16:15:29 |
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Steviegtr | 29/03/2020 16:16:41 |
![]() 2668 forum posts 352 photos | In the end, why expose himself or his staff to any potential risk? I will now get my tin hat on, ready for a verbal onslaught! Stay safe. Grum You are absolutely right. Imagine staying open & a few of your employees passing away. You would never forgive yourself. There may be other attributions as well. Like ARC a lot rely on Asian imports. If these are only coming in dribs & drabs. You can not satisfy your customers. It's a loose, loose. Steve. |
Mick B1 | 29/03/2020 16:27:52 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | Posted by Steviegtr on 29/03/2020 16:16:41:
In the end, why expose himself or his staff to any potential risk? I will now get my tin hat on, ready for a verbal onslaught! Stay safe. Grum You are absolutely right. Imagine staying open & a few of your employees passing away. You would never forgive yourself. There may be other attributions as well. Like ARC a lot rely on Asian imports. If these are only coming in dribs & drabs. You can not satisfy your customers. It's a loose, loose. Steve. Absolutely right. Commercial recovery can occur after damaging interruption, but it's Game Over for anybody croaking from the virus. |
Neil Wyatt | 29/03/2020 16:29:54 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by Vic on 29/03/2020 15:13:16:
I find this a little surprising to be honest but it does of course depend on individual circumstances. I’m still ordering and receiving items from companies that provide that in no way can be called essential products. I can understand why you wouldn’t want to risk employing the normal number of staff but surely some of these small companies can carry on with limited staff? if I was an owner of a small company I’d at least try to ship out orders on my own rather than give up. I understand Ketan's decision is for the benefit of his employees. Neil |
Ketan Swali | 29/03/2020 16:50:20 |
1481 forum posts 149 photos | Posted by Ian Johnson 1 on 29/03/2020 14:55:17:
Are they sending out orders recieved before they shut down? Yes, ARC will continue to process and dispatch all orders received before the site is shut down, to the best of our ability. There may be a small handful of orders we may find difficult to execute for some reason, which we will come to know at time of execution. Those customers will be contacted, provided the reason, and such payment authorisations will be cancelled. I have monitored the developments in China, carrying out pro-active discussions with our main suppliers since around the 20th of January this year, to date. I have watched, listened and learned from them. I have also consulted them on this subject, debated the various points mentioned above with myself, discussed this with my team, and came to the decision to close on Tuesday 31st March by midday. This will allow us enough time to deal with orders and all the issues involved with the closing procedure. Ketan at ARC |
Former Member | 29/03/2020 16:58:55 |
1329 forum posts | [This posting has been removed] |
Tim Hammond | 29/03/2020 17:14:16 |
89 forum posts | Posted by Bill Chugg on 29/03/2020 16:58:55:
Ketan, thanks for post, I wish you, Ian and the rest of the team well. Bill I endorse that sentiment heartily! |
Michael Gilligan | 29/03/2020 17:58:02 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Exemplary, as ever, Ketan I’m sure you will have customers ready and waiting to buy from ARC when normality returns. MichaelG. |
Vic | 29/03/2020 18:03:30 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 29/03/2020 16:29:54:
Posted by Vic on 29/03/2020 15:13:16:
I find this a little surprising to be honest but it does of course depend on individual circumstances. I’m still ordering and receiving items from companies that provide that in no way can be called essential products. I can understand why you wouldn’t want to risk employing the normal number of staff but surely some of these small companies can carry on with limited staff? if I was an owner of a small company I’d at least try to ship out orders on my own rather than give up. I understand Ketan's decision is for the benefit of his employees. Neil
Yes, I understand that which is why I said individual circumstances. But as I also said, I’d be sending stuff out on my own if at all possible. One of my recent orders has been supplied by someone doing this. The albeit small company has I understand sent their staff home but the owner has apologised for any possible delays on his webshop and is still shipping orders out by himself.
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