Win 10 updates (again)

Today I logged into this forum with a HP laptop that was purchased for and mainly used for flying a dji mavic drone on a commercial basis. It has worked well so far. The cheap datalink from the linked tablet is quite a useful way to get online for peanuts.

Then up popped a message "Windows updates are ready to be installed" click here etc.

So I don't want to update as nowhere is mentioned what will be 'updated' or why.

I am perfectly happy with the current setup. I update the security scanner on a regular basis but that's it!

If the 'update' screws my laptop, looses me a filming job will Microsoft compensate me - Lol - noway I suspect!

So how does one turn off this invasive crap and take back control?

* Danny M *

Just don’t install! Not until the job is finished - or buy/try another laptop for the updated changes. There should at least be a ‘update later’ option?

I am regretting doing an apple update recently. It will no longer correct spellings properly, for one example. It also started freezing the screen at times - something itbhas not done previously ( well, not often).

I expect they are preparing another ‘fix’ for the problems they have introduced at the last update.

Er, regain control, dump Microsoft (and Apple) and use Linux! Enjoy Free software!

If you upgrade to Windows 10 Pro it will give you back control of updates, however I converted to Linux about ten years ago and never regretted it. I do have to keep W10 pro as dual boot for Fusion though

Russell

There's a proggy called GWX Control Panel which may help

You can get the exe here

I recommend at least storing it on your hard drive,

Another fabby standalone, win10 never, that site is gone now

Read up on it, I've never used it but it looks like it may be able to disable win 10 updates in win 10

edit: The simplest route IMO is to go Pro as mentioned above, and switch updates off

Edited By Ady1 on 30/10/2018 10:03:51

Danny, I assume, as your data/video is fully backed up? Ha of course it is, silly question.

Windows 10 is meant to be the last issue of Windows so updates are the method of continuous improvement and securing against attacks into the operating system that 'security scanners' only pick up after their virus database has been updated and downloaded, But there are methods into the operating system that the scanners will see as 'legit'

Do the updates.

Roger

The updates are infrequent, take a few minutes to upload and have not affected my computer.

Martin P

I keep mine updated all the time and have had no trouble - same for ipad and andriod units i own . You will find the computer will automatically create a restore point with any major updates so if you do have an issue you just roll back to the previous restore point . I had to do this once with W10 just after they released the updates when some blabbermouth told everyone about the backdoor hack in the cpu , this ws only because my old verion of turbocad didn’t agree with it so uninstalled turbocad then did a rollback followd by all updates then re install turbocad and all is good in the world no . One thing i have noticed as i use norton is to go back and update it after any windows updateds , i have updated norton before checking for windows updates and found no updates but after checking for windows updates and installing them i re checked norton and found updates and patches available so I guess it checks what updates are on windows first . Today i fired up the old HP with XP on it to be confronted with messages about the rtc is not correct , i had a play with MACH 3 and went to shut it down , the mongrel re starte itself ! I had just installed the Mach 3 that came with my engraver ( after scanning for viruses ) so i thought something had got into it but the clock message made me think about the rtc/ bios battery which as it turned out was dead flet so for some reason it kept re booting windows . New battery fixed that ! I must say i like the design of that pc - push two buttons on the case and the top comes off , flip up the power supply and the motherboard is there to work on without the need for any tools - everything flips up or clips in -brilliant !

The current update was postponed because some people on business systems who had extended their local documents folder by adding in a share and not copied their local documents across got all their local documents deleted.

MS were apparently warned about this in beta testing but neglected to fix it before the role out.

Simple solution. Always have at least two full backups with one always unplugged in case of ransomware attack.

I also have anti-ransomware and an additional file history drive in case I accidentally delete files.

Neil

This Win10 "update" issue can be a PITA. Those who've not had problems are lucky and/or don't have apps & progs whose drivers are repatedly overwritten by ones that M/soft thinks are superior.
My patience is rapidly running out with Win 10 and I'm increasingly tempted by Linux.
It would tho' require installing a dual-boot system because 2 or 3 progs have no Linux versions and at my age, I can do without all the aggravation.
Of course - back ups are 100% necessary but won't always avoid the "update" problems reoccuring. (I tried re-installing a back up after problems with the early 2018 Win 10 update. After hours of frustration, the FAT became corrupted and I had to re-install all the progs and data files).
A good sourse of free advice is the regular "How-to_Geek" newsletters, typified by headlines such as "Don’t Click “Check for Updates” Unless You Want Unstable Windows 10 Updates". Maybe worth subscribing !

**LINK**

There are ways to stop the updates e.g. **LINK**

The Microsoft handcuffs are very strong.

It always makes me think with the amount of updates do they use up memory on a device or do they automaticaly replace the parts that are out of date

One of the reasons I haven't "upgraded" to Win-10 from Win-8.1 was the loss of control over updates. With Win-8.1 updates you can still check out what each update is doing to you.

And I check for each update .... several times in the last year or so MS has tried to sneak in a free update to Win-10 amongst the other updates. Nice of them ! But then, that's why I check.

I have a laptop 'graded' to Linux from Vista (I hesitate to qualify that with up or down) for controlling my astronomy kit.

It took a couple of days to get it working despite it being an 'all in one' installation, the wifi connection was a nightmare but luckily I got help with troubleshooting.

I couldn't recommend changing over unless you have someone to help you or a lot of time and patience.

Once done it seems to be OK but the process was so exhausting I haven't tried installing my hardware yet.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 30/10/2018 16:47:41

... but look at all the assistance that's available out there from the helpful Linux community who are just waiting with open arms to welcome windows users into the fold (they just love widows users no elitism with these people). They have endless patience, are willing to take the time to get you started and they don't talk down to you or anything.

Just go to any Linux forum to see what I mean

Edited By Bandersnatch on 30/10/2018 17:19:20

Bandersnatch,

My experience is somewhat different. As Neil says, you are on your own if you go with Linux. I've asked a grand total of 3 questions (on AskUbuntu) and, in the end, managed to sort it out for myself - eventually! The magical help you allude to was simply not forthcoming!

I have a dual boot machine (Ubuntu and Win10) though very rarely use Win10, unless I have to. That said, after an Ubuntu upgrade went wrong, I was very pleased I could still use Win10 to search for answers to my problems. Although I didn't find them, I did find sufficient clues to effect a repair on my own. Having a backup of all your datafiles is definitely recommended.

Quite a few users seem to want to hang onto Windows for certain specific programs. Providing you have a legitimate copy of Windows you can load, you can install it in Oracle's VirtualBox and so run Windows on Linux. I use it for my old version of TurboCad and some music notation software which I run under Vista. I believe that you can download a legitimate version of XP to run under the virtual environment, but haven't tried to do that myself.

So, in a nutshell, I much prefer Ubuntu to Windows, but when things go wrong you are probably on your own.

Regards Tom

Sorry Tom .... perhaps you missed the sarcasm?

Wouldn’t it be nice if software just worked.

Mike

Thanks for all the advice people.

As I said, I purchased this HP laptop solely to run DJI software to manage, calibrate and modify my multirotor flying cameras. Also it is useful to link to my groundstation via Bluetooth so that my assistant and clients can sit in comfort and select the photographs/video that they require.

I did an online search and found many possible solutions, so I tried this one and it appears to have worked ok.

1. Press the Windows 10 logo key + R

2. Type services.msc and press 'Enter'

3. Scroll to 'Windows Update' and double-click it

4. in 'Startup Type' select the option 'Disabled'

5. Click 'Apply' and 'OK'

I was warned that eventually Windows 10 shall revert to the original settings, but I can check that regularly. At least now I have control of what updates to apply and when.

Here are a few photos from my Mavic Pro of Lake Hume and the 88 year old bridge. While everything is working well I don't want Microsoft messing things up.

* Danny M *

Couldn't agree more Mike.

When will the techies realise most of us just want something which works as a tool? Many don't care which operating system or any other crap so-called experts want to boost their ego and show how clever they are - something which works every time will do fine - that's what we paid for.