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Thread: Anyone in the Bristol Area
11/09/2023 18:32:14

Address is incorrect, probably 74 North Street Downend Bristol BS16 5SF

Thread: I need custard.
13/08/2023 15:58:42
Posted by JasonB on 13/08/2023 15:32:17:

If you can't eat bird's then you should try Ambrosia. This photo is of the Ambrosia plant that produces custard

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Yes but only Gods are allowed to eat Ambrosia devillaugh

Thread: Denham Lathe crash :>(
05/08/2023 15:20:41

Cont. from last post

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Top on to avoid bits falling in.

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Fit cover for the belt pulleys and clutch spring, this is a real PITA as there is minimal room where the cover has to be held in one hand and the belts wrangled over the clutch spring and the double pulley especially as it's a heavy casting. devil

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Then it's the change wheel train and support plates to fit and adjust, I did run the lathe berforhand to check correct meshing and change of speeds, and then run up the gearbox and check all speeds and leadscrew and feed, all works as expected.

Just need to fit the covers and we're back in operation smiley

Roger

05/08/2023 15:08:22

Ok so reassembly starts

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Mandril inserted into orifice

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Chuck spindle inserted feeding it through the main gears and gear on left that meshes with the Mandril

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Chuck spindle re-inserted feeding it through the main gears and gear on left that meshes with the Mandril the right way round blush

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Front bearing retaining cap fitted

cont. in next post

Roger

04/08/2023 17:12:22

Collected replacement mandril from Simon

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And milled the keyways out

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Strangly the key on the outside of the head was quite slack in the change wheels so I'm making up a replacement key to fit.

Roger

03/08/2023 21:00:57

Will do, sahould be collecting a newly made mandril tomorrow morning. I will need to do a couple of 3/16" keyways and then it's the rebuild.

Roger

02/08/2023 18:46:56
Posted by Howard Lewis on 02/08/2023 18:25:54:

Had to leave for Shrewsbury to be an Apprentice at Sentinel Works..

Still return very occasionally to volunteer at The WaterWorks Museum, so still love the old place.

Changed a lot since I left, They had only been talking about the new river bridge since before I was born, so it was good to see it!

You can take the man out of the City, etc

Howard

City still desperately needs a bypass though to relieve the traffic on the Ross - Leominster route

Roger

02/08/2023 17:39:07
Posted by Howard Lewis on 02/08/2023 17:12:09:

Well Done all!

Glad that friendshipo still holds good in theThree Counties, to slove your problem

Howard (ex Herefordian ).

ex Herefordian?

You traitor devilwink

02/08/2023 15:10:26
Posted by John MC on 02/08/2023 13:49:44:

Good to see that repair has been arranged.

have you checked for any other damage. Distorted gear teeth? What would trouble me most about this sort of mishap is distortion of the bed, not unkown with this sort of crash.

Easy to check with a precision spirit level. If you don't have such a thing then see if the lathe still turns parallel when its up and running again.

All checked and ok, these lathes are built like a tank and very unlikely to twist under stress.

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Roger

02/08/2023 13:13:05
Posted by Graham Meek on 02/08/2023 12:11:58:

Hi Roger,

If you have not got your part sorted yet I can repair this on my Compact 5, I am in Cinderford.

Regards

Gray,

Thanks Graham but I'm sorted now.

Strange how a couple of you pop up out of the woodwork, Forest of Dean, geddit? devil

Ok now retiring to my padded quiet room.

Roger

02/08/2023 12:15:10

Simon has kindly offered to make a new one for me and he lives only 10 miles from me but it is a more tortuous journey than you would think, back of beyond would probably describe it. smiley Certainly an interesting drive.

Thanks to all who offered help and or advice, very much appreciated.

Roger

Edited By Rockingdodge on 02/08/2023 12:16:10

02/08/2023 12:10:51
Posted by Howard Lewis on 02/08/2023 10:52:39:

FWIW, When i did some unintentional metal mangling, During the strip down for repair, the roll pins came out.

As soon as the lathe could be used, totally manually, I made two (For the Leadscrew, and for the Feed shaft ) brass pins, 5 mm OD 2.5 mm ID to act as replacement shear pins if I was stupid enough to do it again!

On a friend's Raglan the feed s did not work, The shear pin had failed. Replacement cured that problem!

Definitely worth having something, easily acessible that breaks easily, and is easiloyb replaced, rather than an expensive and complicated repair job!

If the worst comes to the worst, remodel a knitting needle to act as a shear pin.

Howard

I totally agree, I'll take out the taper pin and fashion up a brass replacement and see how it holds up when threading, the motor is a circa 2kw one and I thread at 30rpm so it'll be interesting to see if it holds up against that kind of torque.

Roger

01/08/2023 18:38:51
Posted by old mart on 01/08/2023 17:24:27:

When you get the lathe repaired, you should research the possibility of a frangigle link that is common tith most lathes. Plastic gears in an accessable part of the drive train or a little drive pin like Smart & brown lathes have. It would lower the likelyhood of a major crash.

You could repair the shaft using a mill if you had a rotary table.

I must investigate if this is a just a taper pin or meant to be a weak link

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Doesn't give the pin at the end of 4/316 a number so maybe replace it with some cheddar cheese might work? indecision

Roger

01/08/2023 18:30:59
Posted by Martin Connelly on 01/08/2023 16:46:19:

Roger, since you have an ape as your avatar maybe you should be aware that a mandrill is a primate and what you have snapped is mandrel. Snapping the end off a mandrill makes a different type of mess devil

Martin C

Sorry Martin had to do this devildevil

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4/487 is the part broken

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snipped out of the circa 1937 user manual cheeky

Apologies can be considered laugh

Roger

01/08/2023 16:51:11
Posted by Martin Connelly on 01/08/2023 16:46:19:

Roger, since you have an ape as your avatar maybe you should be aware that a mandrill is a primate and what you have snapped is mandrel. Snapping the end off a mandrill makes a different type of mess devil

Martin C

Haha, I knew it didn't look right but my meds have been messing my head lately so I knew someone would put me right laughcheeky

Oh and that ape is a silverback gorilla..... watch out wink

Roger

01/08/2023 16:38:31
Posted by Bazyle on 01/08/2023 16:32:58:

Size not a problem except for maybe a watchmaker's lathe. Hold thick end in chuck with operation end in fixed steady. Perhaps best to locktite in oversize piece and turn to size to ensure concentricity.

And you're going to run the fixed steady on a bearing surface?

01/08/2023 16:03:52
Posted by Howard Lewis on 01/08/2023 12:57:34:

Try visiting the Hereford Society of Model Engineers at Broomy Hill in Hereford.

In my experience, they are a very friendly and helpful bunch.

They will have a running day on Sunday 13th August.

You may be able to contact them through their website.

Am surprised that you are not a member already!

Howard

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 01/08/2023 13:26:06:

Ouch crying 2

… Howard’s suggestion sounds good to me.

MichaelG.

I am a member even though I haven't visited for quite a while but their lathes don't have large bores except for possibly one that isn't that accurate any more, also they are committed to building a couple of 7 1/4" locos.

Roger

01/08/2023 15:58:02
Posted by Dave Halford on 01/08/2023 15:05:03:

That might have been nasty enough to damage the chuck as well.

Nope, would need more than 30rpm and a small toolpost to damage it, didn't even mark the piece of metal it was holding.

Strangely the power feed has a clutch built into the spindle but the leadscrew doesn't, I suspect it might of had a shear pin in it's early life but was replaced with one that wasn't a shear pin!!!

Roger

01/08/2023 15:51:40
Posted by old mart on 01/08/2023 15:06:30:

I would find out first just how hard it is and if it is machinable, bore the main shaft and maybe thread it and then fit or screw a new small end into it. Loctite and possibly pin the joint. If your saddle cannot move without the broken part, it is possible to use the tailstock to push it and then back off the tool and pull it back manually. The compound, if aligned dead parallel to the spindle axis can also work for short lengths. The end which goes in the bearing bush should be made a tiny bit big and then rubbed down at low spindle speed with some wet and dry on a file to get a nice finish. Care should be taken not to let the file hit the moving chuck. The pinning can be done using the mill.

I thread internally with a left hand bar with external inserts in it in reverse. This cuts a right hand thread away from the chuck and is much safer. Make sure the chuck is nice and tight if it is a screw on one and use the slowest speed the lathe can do. Locking the chuck on the spindle is good, but Smart & Brown model A lathes are screw thread and their manual allows reverse if slow speeds are used and care is taken not to use big cuts.

Edited By old mart on 01/08/2023 15:13:35

Yep, love to do that wink, please see below laughcheeky

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That's what was necessary in order to retrieve the bit of shaft with a 40 tooth gear attached to it, so no chance of machining any time soon besides my spindle bore is 3/4" and I would be machining with at least a 4" stickout with no support, not a good scenario for accurate work.

Roger

01/08/2023 12:41:57

Stupid me had an episode while setting up the lathe to do a 6tpi internal thread and crashed the toolpost into the chuck. This snapped the end off the mandril that takes a feed from the chuck spindle out of the head for running the treading spindle and the power feed.

Is there someone who could face, drill and ream the end to take a new piece, either to press fit, silver solder or some other way of reparing it for me?

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The largest diameter of the shaft is 1", the diameter of the bearing surfaces that run in I think a Babbit bearing is 0.75" and the broken bit is 0.5" with a 3/16" keyway that I could do on my mill.

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Overall length is approx. 5"

I live in Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire but could mail the bits if anyone can help please?

Thanks

Roger

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