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How to get stamped numbers neat

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Claus Hansen02/02/2017 10:11:18
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How do you stamp numbers on a dial, so it is good looking.

And have the same depth.

Just by hand or sight, or do you use some kind of jig??

Maybe post a picture.

Jon Gibbs02/02/2017 10:31:44
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Hi Claus,

This Youtube video might give you the information you're looking for... **LINK**

HTH

Jon

MW02/02/2017 10:55:40
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Posted by Jon Gibbs on 02/02/2017 10:31:44:

Hi Claus,

This Youtube video might give you the information you're looking for... **LINK**

HTH

Jon

I made a similar stamping jig to his one shown but I think he made a better one than I did so thanks for that.

Michael W

Roderick Jenkins02/02/2017 10:56:50
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I use my Universal Pillar Tool:

carr dial 027.jpg

Controlling the depth is tricky since an 8 needs a bigger blow than a 1. I think it helps to use a big hammer to ensure that the indent has good depth, then clean up in the lathe afterwards with a smooth file.

HTH,

Rof

MW02/02/2017 11:39:08
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Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 02/02/2017 10:56:50:

I use my Universal Pillar Tool:

Controlling the depth is tricky since an 8 needs a bigger blow than a 1. I think it helps to use a big hammer to ensure that the indent has good depth, then clean up in the lathe afterwards with a smooth file.

HTH,

Rof

I did use a 4lb hammer once but I think it's getting too big at that stage, so I think 2lb would be a good hefty weight.

Michael W

Neil Wyatt02/02/2017 12:28:47
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I use a bar in the toolpost with a 1/4" notch in it.

not done it yet02/02/2017 17:03:07
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I like RJ's method. Looks like perfect control of line and orientation. Perhaps he needs a set of different hammer head sizes for various numbers/letters, and a standard 'thump'?

Only needs to be mounted on a rotary table/chuck for accurate/precise space control!

Brian Oldford02/02/2017 18:02:48
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Posted by Jon Gibbs on 02/02/2017 10:31:44:

Hi Claus,

This Youtube video might give you the information you're looking for... **LINK**

HTH

Jon

I watch that Youtube video and could help thinking it might be better to strike each character with the stamp supported truly radially. Indexing the wheel either side of the long line IYKWIM.

MW02/02/2017 18:49:57
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 02/02/2017 12:28:47:

I use a bar in the toolpost with a 1/4" notch in it.

Do you strike it in the chuck?

Michael W

Lathejack02/02/2017 20:48:23
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I used my rotary table mounted on a stand and connected to the lathe spindle to cut new divisions and stamp new numbers onto the flanges of my Warco VMC mill. This was to replace the standard factory glued on scales.

I made an expanding mandrel to grip and drive the lathe spindle, and first I cut the divisions with a cheap carbide tipped lathe tool mounted on its side.

The fourth photo shows the numbers being stamped. The number stamp can just be seen mounted in the toolpost behind the block of steel used to guide it. The turret castings base flange and front verticle flange for the swivelling head were both done this way.

Dividing.Dividing.Engraving.Numbering.Head degree scale.Turret flange degree scale.

Peter Spink02/02/2017 21:42:06
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11/10 for improvisation!

Tony Pratt 102/02/2017 21:46:18
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Excellent set up, well thought out!wink

Tony

Hopper02/02/2017 22:45:20
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While we are on the topic, what is the best angle to grind the tool for making the lines, and how deep do you set it to cut? I've followed GHT's recommendations of 40 degrees and five thou but found the lines a bit light on after file clean up.

John Stevenson02/02/2017 23:16:09
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When i engrave scales on the CNC I use a 60 degree cutter and aim for 10 thou.

Any deeper and you start to loose the middle of the numbers such as 4,8 and 9 but it depends on the letter size.

However most dials are quite small and you have to cram a lot in.

Neil Wyatt03/02/2017 08:54:48
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Posted by Lathejack on 02/02/2017 20:48:23:

I used my rotary table mounted on a stand and connected to the lathe spindle to cut new divisions and stamp new numbers onto the flanges of my Warco VMC mill. This was to replace the standard factory glued on scales.

I made an expanding mandrel to grip and drive the lathe spindle, and first I cut the divisions with a cheap carbide tipped lathe tool mounted on its side.

The fourth photo shows the numbers being stamped. The number stamp can just be seen mounted in the toolpost behind the block of steel used to guide it. The turret castings base flange and front verticle flange for the swivelling head were both done this way.

Dividing.Dividing.Engraving.Numbering.Head degree scale.Turret flange degree scale.

That's exactly the sort of story and photos many readers would like to see in MEW.

Please consider writing it up!

Neil

Circlip03/02/2017 10:47:49
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Lathejack,

That's exactly the sort of story and photos many readers would like to see in MEW.

Please consider writing it up!

Neil

Just as effective and saves a screenfull of wasted space?

Regards Ian.

thaiguzzi04/02/2017 14:37:20
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Posted by Lathejack on 02/02/2017 20:48:23:

I used my rotary table mounted on a stand and connected to the lathe spindle to cut new divisions and stamp new numbers onto the flanges of my Warco VMC mill. This was to replace the standard factory glued on scales.

I made an expanding mandrel to grip and drive the lathe spindle, and first I cut the divisions with a cheap carbide tipped lathe tool mounted on its side.

The fourth photo shows the numbers being stamped. The number stamp can just be seen mounted in the toolpost behind the block of steel used to guide it. The turret castings base flange and front verticle flange for the swivelling head were both done this way.

Dividing.Dividing.Engraving.Numbering.Head degree scale.Turret flange degree scale.

I use the shaper and a table extension for the lines, and a homemade UPT (Harley flywheel half for the base - it ain't gonna fall over!) for the numbers, but that is ingenious !!! Talk about thinking outside the box ! Superb.

MW04/02/2017 14:45:35
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I'm not intending to make an imposition here but it would be a lot nicer to read if we only had 1 set of photos to view, as nice as the work is. I dont' need to see it repeatedly.

Would a mod please tidy up the comments, if the time is available?

You can delete this notice too afterwards if you want because, I guess it would be irrelevant after the fact.

Again, no offense intended for showing the photos, it's just the same ones over and over again are cluttering and distorting the flow a bit.

Thanking you...

Michael W

Edited By Michael-w on 04/02/2017 14:47:57

Journeyman04/02/2017 15:20:30
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Is stamping numbers while held in the lathe harmful to the headstock bearings? I can't help but think that sort of sideways (or vertical) force is bad for rollers or balls!

John

mechman4804/02/2017 15:43:14
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...but think that sort of sideways (or vertical) force is bad for rollers or balls!...

... especially the balls ... crying 2​ .... face 20

G.

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