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NJH01/03/2016 18:37:30
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Hi All

Hardly Model Engineering I guess but, knowing the wealth of knowledge on this site I thought it might be worth an " ask" and perhaps some kind soul can help me solve my problem.

I have a SAAB 93 car 1998 vintage in pretty good nick. It has electric deadlocking on the doors - I parked the car on my drive and deadlocked it (doors and boot lid have electrically operated deadlock) This was last year and since then I have spent a couple of spells in hospital and any car use has been in my wife's motor. When I come to unlock the Saab now though I am unable to do so. I guess that the battery is flat but, in order to charge it, I need to operate the bonnet release - the handle for this is inside the car!

Any suggestions on how to proceed gratefully accepted!

 

Norman

 

Edited By NJH on 01/03/2016 18:38:21

Martin W01/03/2016 18:43:46
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Norman

I thought that cars with electronics locking systems usually had a mechanical/key operated lock on the driver's door just for this sort of problem. That said I am not familiar with SAAB or many other makes so could be way out.

Hope you resolve it soon.

Martin

PS

Just checked my 04 Toyota and a few other parked cars and with the exception of a large Ford all seem to have the mechanical override lock.

Edited By Martin W on 01/03/2016 18:49:58

jason udall01/03/2016 18:45:59
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Do you have a trailer socket (white type)...if so trickle charge though that
Ian Parkin01/03/2016 18:47:12
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Do you have a towbar? and electric hook up? I pumped juice into my towing socket when the battery was complety flat on a mercedes

frank brown01/03/2016 19:22:07
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Are you sure that the drivers door lock can not be opened with a key or there is some hidden "emergency" key slot behind a plastic moulding (like on my Passat)?

Frank

alan-lloyd01/03/2016 19:48:29
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I had an old t v r years ago, and if this happened as it often did back then, you took off the rear number plate and flicked a lever to open the boot, then sort of hidden right up high on the right side was a lever witch you pulled and it opened the doors and set the alarm off, anyway good luck. if your in a recovery service they will open it for you, also try a saab owners club web site

Jeff Dayman01/03/2016 19:58:09
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If there are no accessible exterior cables (trailer lighting etc.) you may be able to get a battery charger connected to the starter wire and engine ground/earth, from under the car. If you can reach the starter solenoid wire lug even better. Good luck, JD

Michael Gilligan01/03/2016 19:59:21
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Norman,

This is worth a read

**LINK**

... Sounds a bit nerve-wracking.

MichaelG.

Neil Wyatt01/03/2016 20:33:41
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You need to find a retired car-thief.

Reminds me of a car they found in Barry Dock many years ago.

There was the body of a doctor in it. They worked out that water pressure would have kept the doors shut and the electric windows wouldn't have opened because the salt water shorted everything out...

Hope I haven't spoilt your evening.

Paul Lousick01/03/2016 20:54:24
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Car road service mechanics have equipment which can break into cars without doing any damage.

Ed Duffner01/03/2016 22:06:16
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Hi Norman,

I drive a 1999 SAAB 9-5 and the key is insertable in the driver's door as Martin W suggested.

Regards,
Ed.

Cyril Bonnett01/03/2016 22:15:04
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Have a read

**LINK**

Gordon Brown 101/03/2016 22:22:02
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Some years ago I worked for a local authority and we received a complaint of the car alarm on, I think, a 7 series BMW continually going off in the main street of a very posh seaside town. We eventually established that the car had been parked while the owner had gone on a yachting expedition in the North Sea and he wasn't due back for 2 weeks. BMW advised us it was essentially impossible to get into the car without causing a staggering amount of damage and that battery would keep the alarm going for many days. Several local experts investigated various possibilities all to no avail. Eventually we had to get the car lifted onto a low loader and deposited it in a remote barn. Piling straw bales around it muffled the noise sufficiently to avoid more problems. Needless to say the owner was less than pleased to be presented with the bill for all this when he eventually returned but I gather BMW coughed up to avoid adverse publicity.

D.A.Godley01/03/2016 22:35:57
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Norman,

Is it a fob operated key lock? , in which case is the fob battery dead .

Many fob operated locking systems are overcome because the manufacturers fit a mechanical override, this is placed under a removable cover on the door handle / lock fitting , and often it will be on the passenger door, Bentleys used to fit the to the boot lock so that you could open the boot and have access to the battery.

Most Recovery agencies carry a ballon kit which is placed in between the door and roof to hold it open whilst putting a rod in to flick the manual door opener, are you a member of the RAC , or do you have a family member who can be with you. It's the person who is the member, not the vehicle.

Hope these thoughts will stimulate some approach to resolving your problem.

Regards.

Enough!02/03/2016 00:42:46
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Posted by Gordon Brown 1 on 01/03/2016 22:22:02:

....BMW advised us it was essentially impossible to get into the car without causing a staggering amount of damage and that battery would keep the alarm going for many days.

....I gather BMW coughed up to avoid adverse publicity.

Rather good publicity I should have thought.

Sam Longley 102/03/2016 05:22:45
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Just stick a brick through the front windscreen & claim a new one on the insurance policy

(Wind screen that is - not brick)

DMB02/03/2016 08:49:31
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Insurance fraud!
Robbo02/03/2016 09:12:58
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Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 02/03/2016 05:22:45:

Just stick a brick through the front windscreen & claim a new one on the insurance policy

(Wind screen that is - not brick)

And pay the compulsory excess??

 

Edited By Robbo on 02/03/2016 09:14:39

Mike02/03/2016 10:29:33
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I drive a Renault Megane, and there is a manual lock on the passenger side door, actuated by a key cunningly concealed in the "keyless" locking thingy. As most foreign-built cars destined for the European market are left-hand drive, it's the obvious side to have the manual lock. I don't wish to insult your intelligence, NJH, but have you been looking for a hard-to-find manual lock on the wrong side?

Speedy Builder502/03/2016 10:30:51
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So lets get this straight, SAAB have produced a car that if it had an accident, and the battery got smashed, then you would be "imprisoned" from the emergency services - Doesn't sound right to me. I guess they would just cut the roof off !!
My cousins old Vauxhall van had an "accident detector" just inside the front bumper (Inertia switch ?). When he was locked out, the AA came and thumped the front bumper with rubber mallet and all the locks sprung open. If you could find the 'inertia switch", connect a battery to that perhaps, but I bet it is well hidden.
BobH

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