Chinese lathes

I know that one should not strip down a new machine but in most engineering companies where I have worked the machine supplier or the machine manufacturer normally provides a commissioning engineer(s) who works with the companies own millwrights to erect and commission the machine. We pay some one hundredth part of the price they paid, so it is up to us. As to grauching or crunching bearings (with sand, swaff or some such in it.  It would be up to the supplier to do zummert about it and PDQ.

In my case I did not strip down the saddle I just washed it out with Esso Blue (Voo Voo Voo), flushed it with flushing oil and re filled with EP90 oil. After doing an in-out traverse test the whole thing went solid and made a nasty Gerrring noise. I hit the ‘Jesus button’ PDQ. I stripped down the saddle and found the ‘curse of Fu Manchu’ jammed between the cogs, (actually it may have been a menu for the local takeaway) but as I cannot read Chinese I have no real idea what it was. I thought of taking it down to the local Chinky take away and asked it they had it on their menu.  I reported the problem to the supplier and sent them the evidence. Within a few days a packet came with the all the new bits in it. Job done!

I know I mentioned the sale of goods act but the local trading standards folk were always ‘In conference’, ‘on a course’, ‘In court’ or whatever euphemism meant ‘down the Pub’. The last thing they wanted was a complaint, the might have to do some work.

 Finally getting a new lathe for the law guarantee and purchase rights since the previous lathe rattled and yelled because of foundry and chip .. But what about the new lathe is as dirty as the early lathe? Not good to know!

Edited By Jens Eirik Skogstad on 23/11/2010 21:25:45

Edited By Richard Parsons on 24/11/2010 10:57:21

Edited By Martin W on 24/11/2010 17:01:01

Edited By Martin W on 24/11/2010 17:03:37

Reading a lot of the comments on this thread are making me laugh.>>

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For example:>>

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“Lathejack, send a lot of pictures and a description at a bad work on the lathe produced by factory in China. Hope they will improve the quality of the work on the lathes..
Your lathe are produced by Sieg, send to this anout your complains: http://www.siegind.com/
 
You can not rely on the workers in China will do it a good job..
As rule i will take a inspection and wash all dirt/sand etc and oil/grease all moving parts before use. I did with my Sieg lathe and i am satisfied to use a cleaned and adjusted lathe
Edited By Jens Eirik Skogstad on 21/11/2010 09:58:04”>>

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Whilst I agree with the second paragraph of the poster, I would say that the first paragraph is totally wrong in as much as this machine is NOT MADE BY SIEG. You should really check your facts before posting them. Your actions can have an effect on the livelihood of the sellers of SIEG products, such as ARC!. Put yourself in the sellers shoes and see how you would react to inaccurate information. You would probably use colourful language…as John Stevenson did. In fact, I am using them now >>

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As we are on the subject, FACT: “Weiss” is not a factory. Also, before anyone brings “Real Bull” into the picture, FACT: “Real Bull” went bankrupt earlier this year. Their creditors have started off smaller factories. I am more than happy to consider legal challenges to my comments from any one, because I know that they are FACT.>>

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In my opinion, the moderator, considering his position as editor for a magazine has a responsibility to check these facts before allowing this thread to go on for so long before commenting, rather than commenting on JSs colourful language – who does know the fact. Also, before anyone says anything – yes JS does do sub-contract work for ARC. The point still remains: How would YOU react if wrong information effects YOUR livelihood ?>

Edited By Chris Trice on 24/11/2010 18:01:16

My perception of Lathejack's contribution is this:-
He has a photo album of pictures titled Chinese torture.
They are accompanied with descriptive text, in which he briefly explains what he has found and subsequently rectified.
The first picture is headed New 1330 lathe, very poorly.
Which seems to suggest the machine isn't second-hand and certainly looks like it hasn't been used, although it could be be just new to him.
Other text within the album appears (to my eyes) remarkably unbiased and simply serves to describe what faults he found and then did to put them right.
I don't see him making any accusations - only passing on his findings.
It doesn't look like Lathejack started this thread, so I can't see that he's obliged to contribute to it.

Martin.

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Edited By Chris Trice on 25/11/2010 00:01:54