How are people finding Windows 10?

I "upgraded" from Win7 to Win10 and has been mentioned above , I am not happy with the privacy issues. I also resent the fact that Microsoft can just load whatever they like onto MY computer and I have no control over it. In addition, various programs (DVD player for example) no longer work.

I did clone my win7 hard drive before upgrading so I can easily go back. Thank you Bandrsnatch for the heads up regarding the sneaky win7 updates.

I am currently trying the different flavours of Linux (just download an ISO image and burn a disk). I like what 've seen so far so, for me it could well be bye bye windows.

A Mac user since late 2007/8 and never regretted it for a second, except that is for the debacle on updating my iPhone/iPad to iOS 9 and finding that OSX 10.6 Snow Leopard was not compatible.

I was so incensed I wrote to Tim Cook complaining, and got a call from their Ireland tech support a week later who tried to sort the problem out, but my MacBook was too old!

The only thing I and many Mac users really really hate about Apple is that they disown older versions of their OS, and give no warning at all!

Luckily, however, my 2008 MacPro was capable of going straight from 10.6 to 10.10 Yosemite, and that only required a reboot on completion, unlike my previous MS experiences of multiple reboots, freezes, crashes etc on updating.

I dual boot with Vista, but have given up on MS now, as the last time I tried updating it went into sulk mode and froze, so time to format that HD and put it to good use I think.

May upgrade to 10.11 El Capitan, as that appears to be a well locked down system, giving the same improvements that Snow Leopard did for Leopard, BUT improving internet security.

Geoff - Calm restored to Chez 'OuBallie' with 10.10, but lesson learned!

I can't agree with that. I'm still running 10.9 on our 2009 iMac and we still get security and other updates for it.

Vic,

10.9 yes, but 10.6 not as Apple 'retired' that release from all updates last year, hence my use of the word 'disown', unlike MS that has to look after older versions due to its massive installed business base.

MacBook now used mainly to record video directly from camcorder.

I 'should' be able to upgrade to Mavericks, so must give it a try if I can get hold of a copy.

Geoff - Just pruned the apple tree then tidied up, and cannot believe how warm it is!

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Agreed ... My three Macs are now 'frozen' at 10.6.8

Likewise, my iPad at iOS 5.1.1 and my iPodTouch at iOS 6

New applications, and many updates, require the use of a later OS.

No backward compatibility = planned obsolescence

... But we're still battling on.

MichaelG.

I bought a new desktop computer running on Win 8 a few months ago, and upgraded to Win 10 three hours ago. On first impressions I prefer Win 8. Does this confirm that I am weird? It's just an unfriendly feel the thing has - I have had no software issues, but I didn't expect any because all my software has been replaced or upgraded during the last nine months. So far, I think I'm going to keep my laptop running on Win 8, and likewise the two desktops I bought on a Lottery grant for use by voluntary groups in our village.

Can you not update the operating system? My machine is 6 years old and came with 10.6 installed but it's now on 10.9.5 FOC from Apple.

I heard folks complain about the lack of security updates for older versions of windows so how much "support" do MS really provide for obsolete OS's?

Yes Mike. There is almost certainly something wrong with you! Despite being retired, perhaps you have the mind of someone under 20?

The only way I could just about stomach W8 was by cloaking it to look like W7 by using Startisback or Classic Shell to give me back the start button and get rid of those damnable tiles, "charms"(??) and the Metro interface. With W10 I find I can manage without them, although I continue to be annoyed by the changing names and places for settings and devices. As you know, in W10 we are now running "apps", not programs.

I've got win10 on 3 machines and happily XP on older ones. The nuisance with win10 is when an update defaults all the privacy issues back but I believe spybot now do a utility to keep then private. That and a bandaid over the camera lens and mike. It just took a bit longer than 1984...

Oh, and since there's no cell reception here I don'r bother with a phone contract but it's a handy pocket camera. the xp machine may well go to a linux distro if it doesn't die of old age as my shed laptop did this month.

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Vic,

Yes, I could have updated from Snow Leopard, but I chose not to ... because I would have then lost Rosetta.

That would have meant losing Adobe CS2, and [having spent over £1K on that], I am simply not prepared to throw any more money at it.

MichaelG.

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Apologies to Neil, for dragging the thread even further off-topic.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 31/12/2015 16:23:46

All in all it seems WIN 10 has a thumbs down, I have today been reading a Computer mag. and the concensus there is leave it alone until the first update. IE, 10.1 or such. Privacy issues are top of the list with readers in the mag. Also the fact that in idle periods the PC is downloading like mad.

Again, Microsoft are updating WIN 7 and WIN 8 as if it was already a WIN 10 operating system which to my mind is not on and have they the right to do this? Some people like the, 'Blocky' look of the screen and can work with it but a square box on a screen does not mean much to me. I much prefer a Programme/softwre to say what it is. The subject of incompatability of older software and drivers is contentious and means abandoning good hardware and functions. Then, having to buy new functions is distasteful.

Clive

A couple of months ago I bought a new small laptop that had W8.1 which I quickly updated to W10 and prefer it. My W7 64 desktop though has rather more software installed so I have been hesitant about pressing the upgrade button. However, I have just bought a 3TB USB hard disk to increase my backup options and have come across a known (but not previously to me!) issue with W7 backup not working with disks larger than 2TB. This may drive to me to upgrading to W10. But, and this is the question, not advice about alternatives : Can anybody confirm that W10 backup will work with 3TB disks?

Cheers,

Rod

Edit:  Doh! Stupid, stupid me I just have to plug it into the laptop to test it for myself!

Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 31/12/2015 17:40:55

Michael

I tend to agree that the "old" system of purchasing s/w from Adobe was good and you could chose when to "stick" !

I decided - some years ago when changing computer - that I would go with the ( from Adobe's viewpoint) popular solution of a subscription to their " Creative Cloud ". The meat of this is Lightroom and Photoshop CC at a cost of £8.57 per month. Previously I was using Lr and Photoshop Elements and keeping up with the upgrades. I think I am better off with the subscription package with the added advantage of always running the latest version. In truth Photoshop is not much used as my philosophy is to attempt to capture the image in camera and keep adjustments to a minimum - so Lightroom alone is usually sufficient. I find the process of heavily Photoshopped images tedious to do and unexciting to view - but that's just me. To succeed in photo competitions however it seems ever more necessary!

( Phew I feel a bit better now - sorry! )

Norman

I'm not updating my OS ( Win 8.1 ) until I have to, according to the info' I've been reading there are still a lot of bugs within W10. & MS will still upgrade all users to W10 by July 2016 whether they want it or not. I find it very annoying, very arrogant & presumptuous for MS to impose an OS upon it's clients without the choice of yay or nay, & still flawed with bugs & giving the opportunity for hackers an OS that is relatively easy to get into. I'm not saying that Safari, Linux, or Ubuntu can't be got into but I reckon MS has got to be the easier of all the systems ( percentage wise )

George.

Edited By mechman48 on 31/12/2015 17:41:28

Went from Win 7 to 10, after twenty years PC goes through the BIOS so quick you can't see it most times, so boot up time much better then any thing I have ever had, even DOS 3.1 buts that for a different reason!. Also close down is quicker, now its not " Saving your setting", which have not changed. The touch pad has that nauseating squeeze/spread to change the displayed screen size (Control + or Cont- to cure).

If Windows want to look at my machine - good luck to them. Real problem is cookies which are slowly filling up my disc and I wonder how resistant the operating system is to malware, not very I bet.

Microsoft are a funny company, never yet paid a dividend on their shares, yet people still buy them???? They are very good at screwing money out of the hoi polloi, but as for writing software?

Frank

I refrained from criticising Microsoft in my previous post, but I'm happy to join in . . .

The 'Edge' browser and the Mail app may be ok once they're finished but last time I tried them they seemed to be less functional than they were in the preview edition!

Nearly all the new 'features' of 10 are useless unless you're one of the children with their touchscreen devices, and are mostly redundant on a PC/Laptop.

BUT underlying all the pretty window-dressing there appears to be a very stable operating system, which is almost indistinguishable from 7 if you disable the extras. However there are definitely driver problems on some older systems, especially laptops, so it pays to do some research about your particular hardware before upgrading.

Mike.

Edited By Farmboy on 31/12/2015 17:50:32

I don't know how you can say that Geoff. Microsoft "disowned" XP a couple of years ago despite the fact that there is still a (very) significant installed base out there (just look at this thread, or any other Windows forum).

The obvious advantage to a subscription like yours Norman is that if you buy a shiny new camera it will work with your software. If you stick with an old package it won't support the newest cameras if you shoot in RAW. If I didn't shoot in RAW I wouldn't need LR so it's a chicken and egg situation! I've not much bothered with PS since LR came out.

Nobody has mentioned if it needs more processor power or memory??? though one did imply it was faster.

We only just got upgraded to W7 at work, so 2 more bouts to go.

re privacy I was looking at a new TV and the carton says you have to agree to Google's privacy terms before you can use the TV. - frightening.

I'm still on xp32. Got xp64 for the memory stuff so I can do huge databases, which curiously run fine on xp32

With these new super speedy SSDs(solid state drives) you can have an essential program on a separate boot Operating System and keep all your old favourites on an older system

Save any critical files to one of those big external USB backup drives and bobs your auntie

The good old days of trying to get everything working on a single Operating System are over IMO

Edited By Ady1 on 31/12/2015 20:41:36