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Eric Cox13/07/2013 08:56:36
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Found this film on you tube about the Vulcan foundry.

Elfin safety would have had a field day.

Look at Ted Wilson "reading" the mic 14 mins in to the film, I think he needs to go back to night school.

Ady113/07/2013 10:29:09
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Looks so strange now.

Hundreds of people going to work and making useful things for profit and using real skills

 

Everyone I know nowadays either works for the Government, a service industry or Financial services.

....all producing precisely nothing useful for the world

 

Thanks for posting

 

Was chatting to an ex council employee recently, on his way out with liver cancer

A Job for life, Nice pension etc, all paid for by les government

The retired guys had a reunion recently and the over riding question at this reunion was

"what exactly did we do with our lives???"

Edited By Ady1 on 13/07/2013 10:37:36

Hopper13/07/2013 11:13:42
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Great old movie. Thanks for posting.

Aye, thems was the days, when men were men and only pooves wore safety glasses or gloves when splashing molten metal about while balancing on a plank on two saw horses.

Thankfully that ethic is still alive and well in some places today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOBqRVDOYQ

_Paul_13/07/2013 14:27:54
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An old friend of mine had a "perspective" about H&S his view was that it all started with a need to find somewhere to shunt the "know all" knobheads into.....so they create the H&S industry and "promote" all the forementioned into it....but this monster took on a life of it's own....cheeky

Whatever happened to good old common sense cheeky

Ady113/07/2013 14:41:14
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Whatever happened to good old common sense

Every business has three phases in it's business cycle before it becomes useless and the UK plc is no different

1. Entrepreneurs run the business- lots of activity

2. accountants run the business- less activity

3. lawyers run the business- it all goes belly up

Britain is currently in the accountant/lawyer phase with H&S, government pen pushers, Insurance companies and Litigation Lawyers running the system

Ady113/07/2013 15:07:37
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Creating too much wealth is also a big problem

The more wealth your society produces.... the more zero wealth creation government drones and busybodies your society can support

The contrast between Britain and the Republic of Ireland for example is stark

They're bust, so there's no money for silly stuff

The last time I was there I travelled for two weeks outside Dublin, did about 1000 miles and saw a grand total of two policemen

In Edinburgh I walk out the door and trip over someone from the council

Edited By Ady1 on 13/07/2013 15:11:01

fizzy13/07/2013 20:05:12
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now thats propper scary stuff! Im no fan of h&s but crikey!! Pretty sure its all housing now.

Boiler Bri13/07/2013 21:11:04
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Maybe, elf and safety made a mess of it for us all, and stopped all common sense------- and production as we seem to be the only people who stick to it. ???????????

There is a dark force out there, whoooooooo.

Bri

Boiler Bri13/07/2013 21:20:47
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Ya dont see so many pipe smokers either now!

It was always a nice aroma a pipe. When i was a lad, as they say up here, some one always had one burning. I remember walking down though the mule spinning following a manager, who was a right so and so. His smock coat was on fire after he thought he had put his pipe out after having a crafty stoke up. He was a bit red faced when he noticed, but not a soul dared laugh. Ah those were the days --

 

 

Bri

Edited By Boiler Bri on 13/07/2013 21:21:44

Engine Builder13/07/2013 21:56:59
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Great film. One of the comments sums it up:

"Ted's the man only thing missing was the Superman costume"

Bill Pudney14/07/2013 01:53:03
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Heartbreaking to see what's been lost

cheers

bp

Springbok14/07/2013 04:06:45
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Facinating thanks for the posting also points to other interesting clips

Bob

magpie14/07/2013 07:57:48
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After watching that film i thought i would see if there were any films of Crewe works early days and found one from 1911. Watching that would give any "elf n safety" men an instant heart attack. Sorry but i don't know how to put a link to it, but if you go to You Tube and type in "Crewe Works" you should be able to find it no problem.

Cheers Derek.

Ady114/07/2013 09:23:33
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There's a ton of good utube stuff for model engineers

Maybe a dedicated thread would be a good idea, the TSR2 and new metro factory are two recent links which spring to mind

Phil Whitley14/07/2013 18:18:24
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Vulcan Foundry produced a new locomotive every two weeks for 100 years!! they were exported all over the world. What has happened to our engineering industry?

Phil

Andrew Evans14/07/2013 18:22:40
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Nice film - but it contains the signs of Britain's industrial decline though, middle class engineer patronising the working class guys and colonial natives with pats on the back. Techniques that hadn't changed since before the 1st world war producing steam locos well into the 1950s. This was less than 10 years before Japan rolled out its bullet train network but looks like its from another era.

Springbok14/07/2013 19:24:08
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Ady1
I agree a thread dedicated to all good engineering please no rubbish,

look forward to it
Bob

blowlamp16/07/2013 11:00:11
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Posted by Graham Meek on 16/07/2013 10:03:26:

... I do wonder where engineering in the UK would be if it had the Bail-out the Banks had so easily, (which at the end of the day still has to filter down to Joe Public).

Gray,

Edited By Graham Meek on 16/07/2013 10:05:53

Gray.

I don't wan't to derail this thread, but I realised long ago that the bail-out was never intended to help Joe Public. It was done to maintain and reinforce the status quo.

We should all be aware that what has happend in Cyprus - the so-called 'haircut' of their bank accounts - may well happen elsewhere, including here.

Martin.

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