Greensands | 03/05/2023 16:39:15 |
449 forum posts 72 photos | I have just acquired this 6v/12v battery charger from ALDI which is being sold as a fully automatic micro processor controlled charger suitable for use with conventional car and motor cycle batteries and also incorporates a trickle charger function. Does anyone know if this might find alternative uses as a bench power supply? Maximum current is given as 5A but is said to be NOT suitable for recharging lithium batteries. One is always a little wary these days in using electronic gear outside of their design envelop but I would be interested to hear other people’s opinions. |
Greensands | 03/05/2023 16:41:48 |
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Werner Schleidt | 03/05/2023 16:50:39 |
![]() 158 forum posts 180 photos | Hi this charger is only able to charge a battery. Without a battery there is no power support. it depends how much current you need there are some better alternatives like an old laptop power supply up to 3 Amps. if you need more you can use a car battery and this charger . But keep in mind if you draw current from the battery you have to start the charging manually. Werner Edited By Werner Schleidt on 03/05/2023 16:51:20 |
Fulmen | 03/05/2023 16:52:47 |
![]() 120 forum posts 11 photos | Not on it's own. These chargers tends to check if a battery is present before they deliver any power, and they will also regulate the current depending on the battery voltage. |
Nigel Graham 2 | 03/05/2023 16:56:23 |
3293 forum posts 112 photos | It might have only rudimentary smoothing, so not delivering very straight volts, either. If you need power something electrically delicate, even just an old transistor radio, use a proper PSU designed for electronics, not hefty great vehicle batteries. |
Robert Atkinson 2 | 03/05/2023 16:56:59 |
![]() 1891 forum posts 37 photos | No, this is NOT suitable as a bench power supply. Firstly if it is fully automatic you will find it will switch from constant voltage to constant current depending on load. With some loads it could osillate between the two. It might not even provide any output unless there is at least a small external voltage applied (battery sensing). A used quality bench supply (Farnell, Weir, Thurlby / TTI) is not that exppansive and much more useful. Robert. |
Tim Stevens | 03/05/2023 17:49:52 |
![]() 1779 forum posts 1 photos | In my experience, it will not produce a voltage unless it is connected to a good (chargeable) lead-acid battery. But it doesn't need to be a particularly big (or expensive) battery, just be sure that if you need 12 volts, you use a 12v battery, But that said, the charger is likely to produce about 13.5 volts - as this is what a battery needs to charge it - just like on a car with a modern alternator. I'm sure you can still get non-automatic chargers, which would work. Cheers, Tim |
jann west | 03/05/2023 18:44:30 |
106 forum posts | Probably possible, but not as straightforward as an older style "stupid" battery charger. Hate to say it, but if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't do it - the internal smarts aren't your friend. there are better low-cost bench power substitutes - e.g. older PC powersupplies
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Frances IoM | 03/05/2023 20:57:48 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | As several have pointed out the PSU rescued from defunct desktop PCs can provide very usable power usually between 400 and 800W with good regulation at 3.3V, 5V and 12V you can also buy quite cheaply larger PSUs designed for servers usually supplying between 40-150A at 12V - catch is they can't easily be altered as jacking it up to 13.4 would make an ideal charger for lead acid batteries. |
noel shelley | 03/05/2023 21:41:30 |
2308 forum posts 33 photos | Look for an old battery charger at a car boot, put a cap across the output and it should work. Modern smart chargers no use for this App ! Noel. |
Robert Atkinson 2 | 03/05/2023 21:53:16 |
![]() 1891 forum posts 37 photos | An "old" battery charger will be unregulated and smoothed / filtered. Just about OK for running brushed DC motors and possibly incandesent lamps but the voltage will be high at lower currents. No use at all for electronic equipment. Robert. |
Vic | 03/05/2023 22:17:54 |
3453 forum posts 23 photos | I’ve got one of these. It can charge all types of batteries including Lithium and can also be used as a 12v power supply. |
MadMike | 03/05/2023 23:17:41 |
265 forum posts 4 photos | As others have pointed out a modern charger/condition monitor, which is what this item is, will not operate as a power supply. On the basis that you have a supply into which you can plug the charger, why not get an inverter or regular transformer? Incidentally what were you expecting to power up using the Aldi charger? |
Anthony Knights | 04/05/2023 02:58:09 |
681 forum posts 260 photos | This is a bench power supply I made from an old computer PSU. |
Greensands | 04/05/2023 08:36:57 |
449 forum posts 72 photos | Hi - Thanks for all the replies. It confirms my original views on the strictly limited use of the device to its intended purpose. What it does mean is that it will release my somewhat ancient convential battery charger complete with ammeter for upgrading into a bench psu, perhaps even to the point of providing a new enclosure. |
Maurice Taylor | 04/05/2023 09:48:52 |
275 forum posts 39 photos | Hi,If you convert your old charger into a power supply, I would make sure it still works as a charger. I’ve found the electronic chargers won’t charge a flat battery . Maurice |
mgnbuk | 04/05/2023 10:12:21 |
1394 forum posts 103 photos | I’ve found the electronic chargers won’t charge a flat battery . Ditto. They seem to need to "see" at least 10.5v from a 12v battery to start charging. I have managed to get charging started by connecting another, good, battery in parallel with the flat one to raise the voltage that the charger sees to a point at which charging starts. The parallel good battery can then be disconnected. Whether or not a battery that has discharged below 10.5v will be of much use subsequently is another matter. The Aldi / Lidl chargers work well - while they work. I have had a couple fail - one in warranty that was replaced & one just out of warranty that wasn't. The Accumate charger I bought 25 years ago is still working fine. Nigel B. |
Ady1 | 04/05/2023 10:40:48 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | I needed a 12V supply years ago and got a box for a kids train set from ebay The older ones were made pretty bulletproof |
john fletcher 1 | 04/05/2023 11:13:10 |
893 forum posts | As Anthony above suggests a computer power supply together with some coloured terminals make a good bench power supply. Also a more versatile one can be made out of an old type battery charger, fit a double pole change over switch, one way battery charger the other PSU. Fit a capacitor across the PSU output as a bit of smoothing, then a 5 amp three terminal adjustable regulator, break the positive output lead and insert an ammeter and you have a very useful workshop gadget. If you can get hold of disable buggy battery charge they are even bigger and better, 10 amp transformer, good case and ammeter. John. |
Neil Wyatt | 04/05/2023 11:40:50 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by Greensands on 03/05/2023 16:39:15:
I have just acquired this 6v/12v battery charger from ALDI which is being sold as a fully automatic micro processor controlled charger suitable for use with conventional car and motor cycle batteries and also incorporates a trickle charger function. Does anyone know if this might find alternative uses as a bench power supply? Maximum current is given as 5A but is said to be NOT suitable for recharging lithium batteries. One is always a little wary these days in using electronic gear outside of their design envelop but I would be interested to hear other people’s opinions. These are 'intelligent' chargers that detect battery condition and vary the output to achieve longer battery life and even recover over-discharged or sulphated batteries (to some extent). I would worry the non-linear output would not be suitable for many purposes. A traditional charger based around a transformer or a 12V supply 'module' built into a suitable box (what I used and described by 'Stub Mandrel' in issue 325 of MEW) would be a better alternative. Neil |
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