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David George 129/07/2020 12:29:25
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I have ordered a packet of 5 mm LED lamps yesterday afternoon and here is the delivery box.

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It must have cost a fortune to send all that air.

David

Dalboy29/07/2020 12:48:11
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And I thought my delivery was bad back in January from Axminster tools. I purchased a granite surface plate and a pack of hacksaw blades the surface plate was in one box and the blades well take a look as I took this at the time of opening.

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Dennis D29/07/2020 12:56:38
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I worked at a car dealership in the parts dept and spoke to the Wurth rep about why they sent small items in big boxes. He told me that it was cheaper doing it this way than taking the cost hit resending out the small item in a packet that had been lost in the back of the courier van,

Mike Poole29/07/2020 12:56:57
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Amazon also use inappropriate boxes sometimes but a friend who is involved with their warehousing systems told me the packaging is specified by the system and not the operators.

Mike

Michael Gilligan29/07/2020 13:34:16
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Posted by David George 1 on 29/07/2020 12:29:25:

It must have cost a fortune to send all that air.

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But presumably it cost you nothing

Actually ... I believe RS has a very special ‘quantity deal’ with ParcelForce, and it probably makes a lot of sense in that context.

MichaelG.

Nick Clarke 329/07/2020 13:36:00
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And if there is any automated handling involved, same sized boxes would help I suppose.

larry phelan 129/07/2020 13:40:30
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It,s just more junk for us to get rid of.

Reminds me of the amount of rubbish I end up with after shopping for the few items I need, week to week.

Martin Kyte29/07/2020 13:54:47
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Well at least it's cardboard, sustainable sourced, no polystyrene. Assuming that the delivery lorry wasn't full so it doesn't generate an extra trip the fuel costs would be not really any more (not much extra weight) and you get a usefull box to reuse. Intuitively it looks a waste but actually probably not much.

regards Martin

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Henry Brown29/07/2020 14:15:26
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I had this 200mm grinding wheel come from Cromwells yesterday. I was somewhat alarmed at how it was able to bump about in the box as the air bags weren't doing much.. The wheel rings ok so all's well but I'd expected better from Cromwell, I chose to buy from them but the local store but no stock of this wheel so had to go on-line.

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Nicholas Farr29/07/2020 14:49:10
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Hi, I suppose it is cheaper to have a relatively few different "One size fits all" boxes rather than having hundreds of different size boxes and the there is all the bins that store them ready for use, plus the time it takes to learn how each one is opened up and folded, as no doubt they all come flat packed on a pallet. On the other hand, in this present situation, there maybe a shortage of supply and they are using what they have most off.

Regards Nick.

Martin Connelly29/07/2020 15:05:59
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I recently gat something from RS in an RS branded jiffy bag. However I think they put ESD items in cardboard rather than plastic lined bags to avoid static even though the LED bag is (theoretically at least) anti-static. The point made by Dennis regarding resending costs may come into play with ESD items.

Martin C

Nick Clarke 329/07/2020 16:29:21
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Posted by Henry Brown on 29/07/2020 14:15:26:

I had this 200mm grinding wheel come from Cromwells yesterday. I was somewhat alarmed at how it was able to bump about in the box as the air bags weren't doing much.. The wheel rings ok so all's well but I'd expected better from Cromwell, I chose to buy from them but the local store but no stock of this wheel so had to go on-line.

I remember seeing something on BBC's Tomorrows World (Now there's a blast from the past!!) years ago about some research into dropping an egg loose in packing. As far as I recall the space around the object didn't matter because if you shake the box the contents will just hit the soft cardboard and if something presses against one side it will move within the box and so not be harmed. Can't remember much more, but that is the gist of it.

Mind you it might be just a big box!!

Swarf, Mostly!29/07/2020 16:31:52
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Posted by Henry Brown on 29/07/2020 14:15:26:

I had this 200mm grinding wheel come from Cromwells yesterday. I was somewhat alarmed at how it was able to bump about in the box as the air bags weren't doing much.. The wheel rings ok so all's well but I'd expected better from Cromwell, I chose to buy from them but the local store but no stock of this wheel so had to go on-line.

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Hi there, Henry,

Sorry if this is off-topic.

I was told by the guy in my local branch of Cromwell's that I'd have to buy grinding wheels via their web-site - they didn't stock ANY grinding wheels in the shop because they have a shelf life?!?!

Best regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Edited By Swarf, Mostly! on 29/07/2020 16:32:37

jimmy b29/07/2020 17:30:56
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Some wheels do have a "use by date".

Jim

Martin Connelly29/07/2020 18:29:57
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I think some resinoid bonded wheels have a shelf life, vitreous bonded do not. We had resinoid bonded off hand grinding wheels that had a 2 year shelf life according to the manufacturer. When we pointed out there was no manufactured date on the ones supplied so we had no idea how long they had sat on a shelf they supplied new replacements with a date on, a serial number and a certificate . Not cheap wheels at 600mm diameter and 50mm thick.

Martin C

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Edited By Martin Connelly on 29/07/2020 18:46:11

Henry Brown29/07/2020 18:31:41
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Posted by Nick Clarke 3 on 29/07/2020 16:29:21:

I remember seeing something on BBC's Tomorrows World (Now there's a blast from the past!!) years ago about some research into dropping an egg loose in packing. As far as I recall the space around the object didn't matter because if you shake the box the contents will just hit the soft cardboard and if something presses against one side it will move within the box and so not be harmed. Can't remember much more, but that is the gist of it.

Mind you it might be just a big box!!

Nick, the problem with that theory is if it moves too much in this case it can break the side of the box out as I have had happen before, there was precious little tape around the box....

Swarf, ok, the lady I spoke to did actually check if there were any stock in Evesham and didn't mention that. At the rate I go through grinding wheels I hope they have a long use by date as this is the first I've ever bought!

Anyway, fitted now and all good - it ran very smoothly too...

V8Eng29/07/2020 21:06:21
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During lockdown RS have sent me several parcels in more than one box size also a large bag containing some flexible conduit.

As far as I am concerned the combination of RS and Parcel Force has provided superb service, all deliveries on schedule and well packaged.
Considering that we are still in a Covid Pandemic the use of odd boxes is hardly worth bothering about (IMHO).

 

Edited By V8Eng on 29/07/2020 21:09:17

Halton Tank29/07/2020 23:24:02
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Enough!30/07/2020 01:05:45
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One thing we lost when 'Peanuts' became non-u, was decent packaging.

Before then, all the packer had to do was dump a layer of peanuts in the bottom of the box; put the goods on top in the obvious position (in the middle) and fill up the remaining space with more peanuts.

It then ticked all the boxes for decent packaging: goods protected on all sides (and especially corners) and no loose space in the box (which protects the box and therefore further protects the goods).

Modern packing material is as often abused as used. Putting the goods in an empty box (especially in the corner - OMG!) then putting packing material (however good) on top (or even top and sides/ends) makes packaging engineers laugh like drains. Most wouldn't survive standard drop tests.

 

Edited By Bandersnatch on 30/07/2020 01:25:46

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