Maurice | 26/05/2016 21:14:36 |
469 forum posts 50 photos | Among all the stuff that I have accumulated in my workshop, are a large number of ball races of various types. Some are of the type that I believe are called "fully filled" or "crowded" races; i.e. they do not have cages, and the balls nearly touch. My question is; how on earth are they put together? I have some, where small grooves in the inner and the outer are visible, and if aligned, then the balls could be inserted. However, at least two examples have no detectable grooves. Short of brute force, I can't see how it's done. What is the secret please? |
Mark P. | 26/05/2016 22:04:49 |
![]() 634 forum posts 9 photos | Magic! Mark P. |
John Haine | 26/05/2016 22:18:24 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | I believe tiny leprechauns with files carve 'em out of the solid? |
Michael Gilligan | 26/05/2016 23:16:47 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by John Haine on 26/05/2016 22:18:24:
I believe tiny leprechauns with files carve 'em out of the solid? . This may not be so poetic ... but MuchaelG. |
Neil Wyatt | 27/05/2016 10:43:39 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Powerful magnets are used to temporarily reduce the ball diameter by 105, not a lot, but just enough. Assembly is carried out under weak green or red light, then the assembled races are exposed to a bright flash of blue/white light. For about three minutes the races 'plink' like metallic popcorn. Around 0.01% of races are rejects because one or more balls don't expand, or distort and these have to be detected These days the process can be fully automated, but in parts of Tibet the process is farmed out as a cottage industry as the tinkling of the races resembles small cymbals or wind chimes and is considered to propriate good fortune. This necessitate thr movement of large quantities of balls in light-sealed containers into remote rural areas, not a big hazard these days when a Toyota Landcruiser or similar is available, but in the 70s and 80s Musk oxen were used along with fabric covered baskets. This meant the balls could only be moved safely at nights with no more thana new moon showing, a risk process for all the obvious reasons. Neil Edited By Neil Wyatt on 27/05/2016 10:46:09 |
not done it yet | 27/05/2016 11:15:38 |
7517 forum posts 20 photos | I would think cryogenics would play a part somewhere in the production process. Can achieve a DeltaT of somewhere in the region of 500K without too much difficulty, or risk to the heat treatment of the outer race. |
Clive Haynes | 27/05/2016 17:53:00 |
![]() 57 forum posts 9 photos | Sounds like a load of balls. Clive |
Frances IoM | 27/05/2016 18:34:55 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | "Sounds like a load of balls" with no bearing on the topic at all though I'm still wondering what 'medication' our editor was on - probably too many nights away from his bed. |
Neil Wyatt | 27/05/2016 19:18:30 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | More plausible than Magic or leprechauns! Neil |
AndyA | 27/05/2016 22:38:16 |
38 forum posts | Maurice, you will get a sensible answer from Youtube if you search for 'Ball Bearing'
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mechman48 | 28/05/2016 10:41:11 |
![]() 2947 forum posts 468 photos | Nice one Neil Started reading & then got on to the second sentence... George. |
Maurice | 28/05/2016 22:46:55 |
469 forum posts 50 photos | Thanks for the response gents; Nieil had me believing him for a sentence or two; well done! AndyA, I have tried uTube in the past, and just got video of metal fingers spreading a set of balls prior to a cage being fitted. Do you have a uTube address that shows the assembly of the fully filled sort? While we are on the subject, how are the balls themselves made? I've heard vague tales of grinding them between iron plates, but that sounds a bit haphazard. Regards Maurice |
jimmy b | 29/05/2016 05:32:36 |
![]() 857 forum posts 45 photos | So Neil was winding us up
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martin perman | 29/05/2016 06:37:34 |
![]() 2095 forum posts 75 photos | As an apprentice I went with others to RHP in Chelmsford and they ground the steel balls between two plates with grooves in with plenty of grinding paste and water. this video shows exactly how they are manufactured https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFs4zOC2Yg0
Martin P |
Robert Dodds | 29/05/2016 14:35:09 |
324 forum posts 63 photos | This article recently appeared in Design Solutions http://www.bardenbearings.co.uk/Smaller_faster_hotter_optimisation_of_bearings_for_challenging_applications.html Part of it mentions full complement bearings and the different types Bob D |
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