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alan frost25/08/2014 21:38:54
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Got an idea. If someone could write an article for MEW on making model axes then someone else could write a little article on grinding them.

Just read the earlier posts on this thread which confirms my suspicions about mind sets. For what its worth I think Neil Wyatt looks like possibly becoming the best editor we have had for a while. Imo he is gradually getting rid of the padded articles on "Oiling My Myford" etc and so far seems to be keeping clear of "testing" proprietary equipment "for the magazine " , an affliction of recent years. He also seems a reasonably nice and helpful fellow, judging by his posts and now we have him ,and the under appreciated Diane, plus JS as a moderator maybe the whinging little axe grinders will feel less welcome on this forum.

I live in hope as the forum does contain a wealth and broad spectrum of engineering knowledge.

Oompa Lumpa25/08/2014 22:09:16
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Posted by alan frost on 25/08/2014 21:38:54:

Got an idea. If someone could write an article for MEW on making model axes then someone else could write a little article on grinding them.

LMAO!
The best comment in the thread in my opinion.

graham.

John Stevenson25/08/2014 22:19:20
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Damn,

I thought he was serious, I'd already written half of it but was struggling as the splell checker is having a day off.

Are there three g's in angle grinder ?

magpie25/08/2014 22:42:15
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Got to get some bugger to write about making em first John. Before you can write about bodge grinding em.

Cheers Dek.

alan frost26/08/2014 00:12:22
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Got me there Js. I kno there is two in horse if that helps.

John Stevenson26/08/2014 00:16:11
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Nearly on topic but there is a B&Q in Hudersfield

alan frost26/08/2014 00:28:05
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Maybe the clue is in the thread title "not a modeller" i.e a Baldric definition of Home Workshopper as in "Cat"-- "NOT a dog".

Enough!26/08/2014 00:54:46
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Posted by alan frost on 25/08/2014 21:38:54:

maybe the whinging little axe grinders will feel less welcome on this forum.

 

You mean the people who have different opinions to you and feel as entitled as you to express those opinions? Why do you (and others) find it necessary to continually denigrate and belittle them? Why should you want to make them feel less welcome (as if this is your personal playground). To leave behind a mutual admiration society to perpetually agree with one another?

Forum bullying is legion on the internet. Couldn't it be nipped in the bud here?

Edited By Bandersnatch on 26/08/2014 00:56:27

Raymond Sanderson 226/08/2014 01:16:18
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I often wonder how sponsors start to feel about such topics being they sell to all walks of life.

I have seen the same treatment in stores by staff and management even online if the buyer is known.

I have seen some treat hobbiests as they are low life scum mainly because they are limited funds buyers, while others treat them with King like status because the work they do is heart felt. This can be in the same store. And visa versa.

I am always thankful to those who willingly pass on their knowledge to such as myself I will never be a Cert Engineer to old now days unless I become a Modeller of steam and have to become certified to use and operate it.

Model making isn't why i joined or took out a 3 yr subscription to MEW I will be making tooling and other things mainly, however all the models I see about and on various sites inspire me enough to have bought books on how to. maybe one day when I finish making a Rose Engine.

Ray

JES26/08/2014 07:49:02
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It seems to me that an awful lot of growing up and swarf making needs to be done

JES

Martin Kyte26/08/2014 09:18:44
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Considering how we spend our time mostly, we fall into the category of machinist/fitters. Just occasionally I may design something which would raise the activity to the level of 'engineering'. Mostly I manufacture enjoyment.

Martin

PS I will duck now.

Roderick Jenkins26/08/2014 09:25:43
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Relax guys, we're just a bunch of old gits putting the world to rights over a metaphorical pint smiley .

The joy of a forum like this is to be able to discuss a range of topics (some of them even relevant surprise ) with like minded individuals. We may not always agree, but always enjoy the discussion.

Cheers, another pint? Don't mind if I do.

Rod

Danny M2Z26/08/2014 10:20:43
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G'day.

When I first joined the Australian Army, after a full-on year of intensive technical training (including basic fitting/turning) I was upgraded to the honourable rank of 'Craftsman'....the lowest of the low in RAEME (Royal Australian Electrical & Mechanical Engineers) (U.K. equivalent REME). My trade was actually as a boffin (electronics).

After many years of on-the-job experience (repairing stuff in the field) I actually got pretty good at fixing the geeky toys (with many months spent learning about new developments).

One day I passed a technical/promotion course which gave me a new label 'Artificer'.

Wow! Did that make me an engineer? Probably not...............only officers were allowed to be called 'Engineers' (Technically they had the bit of paper).

The wise ones (officers) let us get on with the job. One 'engineer' (1st Lt) wasted a day of our time by asking to see if every resistor/transistor/diode on a circuit board was 'up-to-specs'. We told him that it was too hard for us lowly craftsmen, but as he was the expert we gave him the oscilloscope and meter, went to morning tea and told him to us a 'Cooee" when he found the fault.

Luckily our boss was a wise engineer.

Never saw that 1st Lt again

(for those who remember the 77 set, it was the usual A-19 Squelch Module).

So nowadays I make stuff on my lathe and mill. Some relates to models, I am only an Artificer.

* Danny M *

Versaboss26/08/2014 10:20:55
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Posted by alan frost on 25/08/2014 21:38:54:

Got an idea. If someone could write an article for MEW on making model axes then someone else could write a little article on grinding them.

Too late, Alan. Has been done more than once, really... An example here:

Axe from hammer

Regards, HansR.


Russell Eberhardt26/08/2014 16:36:58
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Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 26/08/2014 09:25:43:

Relax guys, we're just a bunch of old gits putting the world to rights over a metaphorical pint smiley .

Speak for yourself, well me as well I suppose smiley

Unfortunately we can't get pints here and when I buy a half litre it's cold, tastless, and fizzy sad

Russell.

jason udall26/08/2014 16:55:06
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Not commenting on Engi eer...
But the op MODELLER.

If he doesn't like the term the good luck..I doubt anyone he knows addresses him as such.
And if they did I am sure a polite correction would suffice.

Myself?...
Not bothered over title ..
But may be this thought...boats owned for pleasure/non commercial purposes are defined as yachts. ..regardless of power or size. ..
alan frost26/08/2014 21:34:48
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HansR , yes I could have added the odd bit of blacksmithing to my list of interests. Not sure forging one of those would be encouraged by the law in the UK and I'm not sure I would want to meet that blacksmith when he had his axe. He seems a bit twitchy to me.

Regards

Neil Wyatt26/08/2014 21:51:18
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A lot to wade through here. I will read it properly tomorrow.

For the record DAG has the wrong end of the stick. My comment was to reassure all that I wouldn't rename the title lightly, and anyway that would be a decision for the publisher, not the editor. Mind you, Model Engineer's several name changes don't appear to have affected its longevity.

As for the increasing breadth of content? The publishers have specifically asked me to include more content of relevance to the wider readership of the magazine which goes far beyond model engineers to car restorers, light engineering companies and 'makers' etc. I am hoping to do this in a way that doesn't alienate existing readers.

Again, as far as I'm aware, no-one complained about Ken Sprayson's first article way back in issue 146 on bending tubes for motorcycle frames.

Neil (who isn't here... right!)

MadMike26/08/2014 23:13:42
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Neil W, lat's face it no matter what anybody else thinks about names, titles, engineering and model making abilities that Ken Sprayson should be considered a Superhero. His knowledge, abilities and sheer ability to build super handling racing motorcycle frames makes him a true legend in his and our lifetimes. If anybody on here considers thenself to be an engineer then theyshould look at Kens work If they have 20% of his ability then they would be truly super engineers.

Russell Eberhardt27/08/2014 10:10:40
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Posted by jason udall on 26/08/2014 16:55:06:

But may be this thought...boats owned for pleasure/non commercial purposes are defined as yachts. ..regardless of power or size. ..

Mmm...

The more usual definition seems to be a boat (motor or sail) equiped for cruising. Does that mean that I can't call my model boat a Yacht?

Russell.

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