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Rob keeves27/12/2011 23:38:12
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When and if this ME mag appears i would hope it is good, it would have to keep my attention for three months before the next came along. all sounds odd to me, here today gone tomorrow with our subs.
chris stephens28/12/2011 01:56:18
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Hi Guys,
Someone must know something about the "new" mag, it must have lined up some people to write the articles. Have any of you offered or been invited to write for them?
chriStephens
PS If you have offered, how did you find out about it?
Chris Trice28/12/2011 02:13:48
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That's the trick isn't it. Who else except "Space Decks" and "Spindle Speed" have heard about this from another source other than "Space Decks" and/or "Spindle Speed"? Come on SD and SS, who told you about the mag? You'd put so many people's minds at ease by telling us.
Ian S C28/12/2011 05:41:14
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You want containers? We'v got a city full of them, Most of the shops in central Christchurch are modified containers, and will be for at least the next five years. They also hold some of the remaining buildings up. Ian S C
David Clark 128/12/2011 08:36:32
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Space decks and spindle speed have signed up with the same MO.
No details other than gmail address and neither have validated their account.
I am getting something checked prior to deleting the entire thread.
 
Could not check yesterday as email was not working but now OK.
regards David
 
 
 
Les Jones 128/12/2011 09:45:12
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Hi Gray,
Nice to see you back on the forum. "space decks" has certainly shot himself in the foot with his last comment proving he has not followed this forum.
 
Les.
Chris Trice28/12/2011 10:32:22
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Oh please. Let me play with 'them' some more.
John Stevenson28/12/2011 10:46:24
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This post has brought some valid points up though in that another mag will dilute the subscription pool, by how much is hard to say.
There are always subscribers moving, leaving and joining all the while.
 
I feel the same applies to shows but more so as they are not so regular and the cost is higher than a subscription.
 
Just my take on it but there are too many shows at present and more being offered.
 
If you look at the build up of a show it's three sided, like a triangle.
You have models and clubs, lets just call these models ? Trade and stands and gate money.
 
All are required for a show because the show has to make money or break even,
 
Take one side of the triangle away and the other two sides fall flat. Gate money is always needed.
Models are needed to get the interest level up but they do not contribute to the running of the show. In some ways they are a drain because of the free tickets handed out to the exhibitors.
 
Trade is needed because they contribute the bulk of working capital.
 
The problem, and again this is my personal take on this, is that whilst money is tight, trade has to make cuts. Do they or do they not go to a show ?
 
If they don't, their competitors will reap their rewards, if they do go can they break even ?
 
If they don't go they can save a lot of money, remember most have to shut up shop and loose phone, internet and passing trade whilst they are away.
 
The Internet is now far bigger than it was a few years ago and will continue to grow and the lack of travelling, hotels, overtime wages etc can enable them to keep prices down.
 
Shows need trade to survive, Pickering proved this, the trade basically boycotted it and it folded. We do not need more shows but condense what we have. Sandown in December in London followed by Ally Pally in London in January is far too big a strain on resources.
 
John S.

John McNamara28/12/2011 11:57:03
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Hi All
 
It is pretty shabby if the two posts are some sort of subterfuge to try an lever a few members off the forum in another direction. To me it is also a clear sign of weakness, and it certainly is unethical.
 
The fact is a web site and a quarterly rag is not enough to make a real difference to the model engineering community. that is only a small part of the real difference that ME MEW makes. These two magazines "enable" the focus of a huge community effort that not only covers model making but small business engineering as well.
 
These are difficult times for business, It is clear to me that the way forward is to "get on with it"; The ME and MEW community is a group the spans two world wars and tens of thousands of pages of published work. What is needed is new younger members and maybe a more engrossing approach to new technology, we need more engineers to make our very special interest more viable.
 
As to the fete of the new Duckling? Alfred Noyes put it very succinctly Here ....
 
Cheers
John McNamara

Edited By John McNamara on 28/12/2011 12:08:31

John Stevenson28/12/2011 12:38:53
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Posted by John McNamara on 28/12/2011 11:57:03:
Hi All that is needed is new younger members and maybe a more engrossing approach to new technology, we need more engineers to make our very special interest more viable.
 
 
Cheers
John McNamara

 
Could not agree more John but as soon as we get articles on CNC and David has said CAD is a no - no, then the flat earth society come out all in a rash.
 
There are no centre lathe turners or millers in industry now, it's moved on, so should we.
 
John S.
NJH28/12/2011 13:00:25
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On the ( unlikely it seems) assumption that there is to be the launch of a new quarterly magazine need ME/MEW fear this? Surely the readership is well catered for by the content of both these publications. (OK John I know you crave CNC/CAD fixes which are on ration!) Why should there be a defection to a new mag? If it is good I'm likely to shell out for those mags in addition to my current purchases. If, as seems likely, this is some elaborate scam/ hoax well at least it has kept us entertained at our computers and away from all the washing up/ silly games / excessive boozing / overeating. Sorry I should say kept some of YOU not US!
Hope you all had a good one.
 
Regards
 
Norman ( Still recovering from losing to the Grandbrats at all those games!!)
Gone Away28/12/2011 16:38:55
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Posted by NJH on 28/12/2011 13:00:25:
Surely the readership is well catered for by the content of both these publications.
That sounds awful like a rhetorical question Norman. For my part, the content of ME has never particularly suited me. That of MEW did, very much so, up to a few years ago; less so since then. I gather from this forum that there are others.
 
In addition there are issues other than content for some.
Ompa Ompa28/12/2011 17:17:47
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I may appear a bit lost at some time or other, the thing that struck me as almost a reason for this topic to be brought up was the suggested month of starting this 'new' magazine, APRIL!! Could this not be just one big April 1st ploy by somebody??
magpie28/12/2011 17:18:26
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John S, (remember you started this again) I agree, too many shows. They should close all of the ones south of Birmingham, and just have MANCHESTER, and Harrogate. To all you southern folk, dont be afraid, you will not fall of the edge of the world just north of watford. Manchester is ideal, motorway right to the door, brand new venue,and somewhere for the wife to go right next door
 
Cheers Derek
NJH28/12/2011 21:31:02
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Derek
 
Where's this Manchester then - is it somewhere up north near Bristol?
 
You get on down 'ere to Devon my lovelies !
 
Cheers
 
Norman
 
 
Springbok29/12/2011 01:51:40
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Ooh arr as we say go to Brizzle exhibitional ar be best and oi gets me zider there at not rip of prices.
 
Everybody have a good new year
 
Bob
Ompa Ompa29/12/2011 09:19:58
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Looking back at the entry by Jason B, the name suggested as to be the contact for this 'new' magazine reminded me that a similar named person was once involved with the east Somerset Railway and has now moved up towards the Nottingham area, wonder if it is the same person? Future are publishers of many magazines covering varies interests I believe.
JasonB29/12/2011 09:57:26
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Future publishing and Future Structures would seem to be two completely different companies.
 
The question has also been raised is Cliff Almond AKA Space Decks the same person currently doing the series on the 7 1/4" William Spence in ME at the moment?? the plot thickens.
 
J

Edited By JasonB on 29/12/2011 09:57:58

David Clark 129/12/2011 10:05:18
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Hi There
I doubt it is Cliff.
I have emailed him to look at the thread but have not heard back.
regards David
 
Billy Mills29/12/2011 11:43:40
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Future Structures (Europe) Ltd. were incorporated on 12/12/2011, the registered address is a private house :-45 Covert Crescent, Radcliffe-on Trent, Notts NG122HN which is somewhat different from the West London Post Box number. The phone number is 07595 284874 on their home made web site. All of this information is in the public domain and very easy to find. It is possible that the postings were not made by anyone connected to Future Structures however as such a very newly listed Company it is strange that anyone else should know about them.
 
 
Billy.
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