bob gould | 04/10/2013 07:31:26 |
75 forum posts 165 photos |
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bob gould | 04/10/2013 07:33:41 |
75 forum posts 165 photos | And thank you to the very talented engineer who pain stakingly laboured for hours to produce this work of art |
Michael Gilligan | 04/10/2013 08:34:15 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Nice work, Bob [and your un-named engineer] When you first asked for help with this, people dismissed it as unachievable. I hope the nay-sayers are duly impressed. MichaelG. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 04/10/2013 08:35:30 |
JasonB | 04/10/2013 08:41:39 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Yes its a nice enough representation though from the first posts I thought you were after a true scale replica, one can see where compromises have been made such as the wheels, brass handwheels and those rather out of scale nuts on the front of the carrage. Also took a bit longer than the original 7 weeks I think you were quited. Perhaps when you have it in your hands you could post a series of photos of teh finished item rather than the ones your builder has been sending so we can all have a good look
J |
Ady1 | 04/10/2013 09:21:42 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Definitely different, well done to everyone involved |
jason udall | 04/10/2013 09:27:49 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | At first sight JasonB 's comment seems a little churlish. But it does serve to highlight the difference between what was proposed and was achived..I suspect wiser heads than mine looked at the original request and thought ..nightmare ... The practical implementation of the client's desire was probably shall we say "iterative". Nice build btw. |
mike T | 04/10/2013 11:54:17 |
221 forum posts 1 photos | Shame on you JasonB; there is absolutely no need to be so negative and critical. The model is still en route to it's new owner, who has yet to inspect his pride and joy. Your comments could have been better timed or not written at all. The howitzer looks to be a very fine work of model making. The builder is very talented and has done a good job to satisfy Bobs requirements. Mike T |
JasonB | 04/10/2013 13:36:18 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | I'm sorry if what I said offended but I was just stating it the way I saw it. Bobs original enquirey was for: "It will be a historically correct, highly detailed 1/10 scale WW1 8inch Howitzer that will be fully functional (non firing of course) and made from steel." From what I can see detail has been left off, things like those large nuts at the front are not historically correct, the handwheels are off the shelf brass items from steam fittings not the correct style at all. I said that it was a nice representation but its certainly not a Highly detailed scale model. As someone who has made several models to commission I think I am in a reasonable position to offer constructive comments and not just negative ones. This is something you find of a lot of forums especially the American ones everybody says "oh what a lovely job" yet there are glaring errors, hopefully if these are pointed out it will help the builder in the future or stop them before things cannot be recovered. A good example of this came up recently on a boiler build, the guy put the tubes at the top not teh bottom, several said great work, but should I have done the same or pointed out his errors?? J (off to start another commission job) Maybe a photo of the full size will help illustrate what I mean Edited By JasonB on 04/10/2013 13:40:32 |
Boiler Bri | 04/10/2013 14:16:06 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | How Many Rivets! Some of us are happy with the results and are not perfectionists.
More encouragement on this forum i say.
You enjoy it Bob Bri |
HobbyNut | 04/10/2013 20:54:37 |
![]() 113 forum posts 93 photos | It is a nice metal model. Jason is right tho' it isn't an accurate "fine"scale model of the real thing. Still impressive. Good job to whomever did it. |
Stub Mandrel | 04/10/2013 21:43:54 |
![]() 4318 forum posts 291 photos 1 articles | I think Bob has mentioned that he will be adding further detailing himself, including the rubber strakes. Neil |
jason udall | 05/10/2013 15:05:14 |
2032 forum posts 41 photos | Spot on John Most of my hobbie work is of the class "What the hell it works" ( I wish ) This is why I don't inflect photos of my abominations on the forum. But my taste may not be your taste. Pointing out "errors" can be helpful..I lack the courage to run that particular gauntlet. .but in reality I would guess the op is quite aware before sharing his work... |
bob gould | 05/10/2013 17:04:40 |
75 forum posts 165 photos | Hi thanks for all your input positive and negative. It's not an exact replica however it is what I wanted as I required all the functions of the real thing and it's not always possible to replicate functions and size due to tensile strength of material. I.e a scale size hand wheel would collapse under the pressure of turning it to elevate the barrel. It's also a case of economics as to rubberise the wheels totally and hammer down riveted blocks to squeeze the tyres down would cost thousands per wheel I'm sure. I shall be adding rubber inserts to the wheels to mimic the effect. all in all I'm over the moon with what the engineer has created from scratch. The hand wheels control elevation, transversing, it recoils, has interrupted thread breech which is operated by the correct handle. All in all it's a work of art and its is far more than 50% accurate but at less than half the cost of the quotes I received in this country. Will post more pics when it arrives.
I now need a quote for some brass shells, say a dozen as the cannot be sent airmail. again hanks for the interest and comments
bob
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bob gould | 05/10/2013 17:11:07 |
75 forum posts 165 photos | Ps as a creator of scale tanks I'm very used to input from the "detail police". All comments are welcome. even though positive comments give me a better feel good factor, I have never even been close to sticking my head in a glass oven or jumping of a river bridge with a rock tied around my neck.
Edited By bob gould on 05/10/2013 17:12:36 |
bob gould | 09/10/2013 09:13:53 |
75 forum posts 165 photos |
Just wanted to add that the nuts are not that out of scale apart from thickness but I guess as that holds the recoil spring it needs to be pretty chunky on the model |
Pete | 15/10/2013 08:16:44 |
128 forum posts | I guess I'll need to pre-apologise in case of offending anyone. People sure seem to quickly forget Jasons's always consistent efforts to help everyone here or on any forum He's on no matter what there skill level is. I'm afraid too many took offense at his comments that I think were sincerly meant only to help. Being hyper critical of a persons innocent comments probably isn't much different than being one of those rivet police either. I've seen many instances where a builder was 'praised' for obviously incorrect work just as Jason's mentioned. To be honest, that helps no one, and it's a very poor practice. If you post pictures then you should expect a critical assessment either good or bad. If you disagree? I'd suggest you maybe check Jason's last 200 posts just for starters. I like the cannon very much, and most of it was more than very well done. If it pleases the owner then that's what's really important. But understanding where there were some detail mistakes made shouldn't ever be a sin to point them out. Being told or telling someone they just did a sh**y job is standard practice in my industry. And in a lot less nicer words than that. I sure don't expect much or any different for anything else in life. And......................I usually put my big boy pants on when I get up in the morning.
Pete Edited By Pete on 15/10/2013 08:33:04 |
Russell Eberhardt | 15/10/2013 08:50:58 |
![]() 2785 forum posts 87 photos | Posted by jason udall on 05/10/2013 15:05:14:
Most of my hobbie work is of the class "What the hell it works" ( I wish ) This is why I don't inflect photos of my abominations on the forum. Why not post some photos Jason? It might encourage others to have a go. Don't you think that all the photos of perfect models might be off-putting to beginners who might think, "I could never do that "? Russell. |
bob gould | 15/10/2013 11:17:51 |
75 forum posts 165 photos | is there anyone who I can commission to build these. one piece steel construction except fuse which should screw or pressure hold in brass |
Smudge | 27/11/2013 21:12:24 |
![]() 18 forum posts | Hi Well done, very good work, Was it from casting or made with a drawing and material
Doug |
mark mc | 27/11/2013 21:41:00 |
92 forum posts 16 photos | Well I thinks it looks fine, scale perfect or not. |
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