Nut Making

In India.

https://youtu.be/mrcx5rluIXM

Edited By Vic on 28/05/2022 17:25:50

Edited By JasonB on 28/05/2022 19:52:17

HSE not quite what I'm used too.

That is why indian and chinese offerings are a lot cheaper the made in Britain.🙂

Also why the quality is more variable, too?

Presumably that's how the Chinese made the 1 mm stainless steel nuts I purchased a while ago. Hope they don't lose too many on the factory floor!

While these videos are fun I doubt they are in any way representative of current manufacturing processes for the larger domestic and export markets in either India or China.

In this case they are likely using European machinery pensioned off some years ago when productivity fell too low and labour costs became too high. The problem is that even though wages are increasing in China and modern manufacturing process with lower workforce requirements are taking over, these industries are not returning to the western world even though we should now be competitive. Why is it so?

Pero

Before many throw their hands up in horror, until we became a nanny state, this was how Britain generated an Empire in our own slave shops as any who were apprentices sixty years ago will attest.

Regards Ian.

Edited By Circlip on 29/05/2022 09:07:22

As wealth increases a society gains more silly government drones who enforce more and more silly government regulations which strangle human endeavour

500 tears ago it was silly clergy drones forbidding human endeavour

Al these "rules" people generate zero wealth for society

After we got shot of the clergy 500 years ago (100% redundancies) we got the British Empire and the Industrial revolution

Henry was a selfish twit but the law of unintended consequences meant he changed global history

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More recently we got rid of the EU drones and now we are starting to do the industrial and innovative things they wouldn't allow us to do

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose “ – the more things change, the more they stay the same

Edited By Ady1 on 29/05/2022 09:33:51

Interesting to see skilled folk doing stuff for real.

Looks like they recognise the value of spiral-flute taps, even for through-holes.

Arguably wealth tends to strangle endeavour more than than silly government regulations. When most people are poor it's easy for an entrepreneur to create wealth by building a dangerous chemical works in a communities back garden, pay minimum wage, and dump toxic waste into the water supply! As soon as people have money they become instant NIMBY's (Not in my back yard). They demand regulations covering planning, exploitation, equitable taxation, health and safety, pollution, and anything else considered anti-social. Most of those in favour of laissez faire developments run in straight to the law when they find a new deregulated toxic waste dump is planned next door to their house!

As for the industrial and innovative things we're starting to do now we've left the EU, can Ady give examples? As far as I know not much has changed yet. The headline difference in wealth generation so far has been a 2% dip in the UK economy due to the border and loss of membership benefits. (Apart from Northern Ireland who are effectively still in the EU.) We might have got rid of the European Court of Human Rights but British exports still have to be CE marked! Although a bonfire of the regulations is promised in the next parliamentary session not much has actually happened yet - government still has a lot to do.

Dave

So what are the things we can do now we dont have the EU drones?

Yesterdays announcement about imperial measurements is really going to make a difference, not!

Ian P

I can only go back to my apprenticeship starting 1970 & safety was of paramount importance then, it's no fun going through life missing fingers or minus an eye!

Tony

Edited By Ian P on 29/05/2022 12:02:25

The centrifugal casting looks dangerous, but can anything that needs hitting that hard with a big hammer be all bad?

Another brexit misconception, the European Court of Human Rights has nothing to do with the EU, and we are still part of that set up. I'll stop now as it will get political.

Going back to the nut making video, can anyone shed any light on the tumbler process? It looked as if the operative added a bowl full of wood shavings to the tumbler, what good would that do apart from absorbing oil but later they are flooding with some kind of cutting fluid during the tapping process?

Maybe I'm just being dense!

Phil

I don’t know if you noticed but all the workers seemed to have matching tops and bottoms?!

I had some M24 nuts where the thread axis was 20* out from the nut axis ! I bought a set of points for my Indian Bullet and the hole was in the wrong place, making them imposible to fit - useless, you could say making them was pointless !! Noel.

I think you will find the Chinese factories are very different. Much more modern and efficient. They didn't get to be the worlds No 1 manufacturing power by grubbing around on dirt floors with 100-year-old methods and machinery. But both take full advantage of the low cost of local labour, lack of workplace health and safety laws, and environmental laws in disposal of plating chemicals etc etc.

By offshoring our manufacturing over to there, we have turned the industrial clock back 100 to 150 years to the good old days of low wages, no job security and no safety. The corporations are laughing all the way to the bank.

But that's how guys like us can afford to have a shed full of milling machines and lathes and every piece of conceivable kit to go with them at historically low prices. So who is really to blame?

He's right! I was thinking of the Court of Justice of the European Union, which is a different body entirely.