choochoo_baloo | 18/07/2018 17:21:03 |
![]() 282 forum posts 67 photos | After some interweb searching, and reading through posts on this website, I would like to attempt home anodising. I've got a selection of tools (and most importantly the patience to fully prepare the parts, degrease etc etc) Yes I realise there are a number of anodising companies out there, but where would be the education in paying a pro to do it?!
I'm hoping others who have had successes can share their step-by-step guide for colour dying aluminium - I don't imagine it's too reliant an the exact aluminium alloy? Any help gratefully received. |
KWIL | 18/07/2018 17:32:54 |
3681 forum posts 70 photos | You need to be aware that if you wish to use the same colour on a number of parts that will be used together, if they are made from different alloys they will not be exactly the same colour. |
choochoo_baloo | 18/07/2018 18:22:55 |
![]() 282 forum posts 67 photos | Forgot to ask, can someone recommend a dye supplier? |
JasonB | 18/07/2018 18:39:27 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Dig out Ramon's articles that were in MEW for a good simple guide. You don't need the special dyes, fountain pen ink works quite well as you can see. Edited By JasonB on 18/07/2018 18:41:34 |
peak4 | 18/07/2018 21:26:32 |
![]() 2207 forum posts 210 photos | Posted by choochoo_baloo on 18/07/2018 18:22:55:
Forgot to ask, can someone recommend a dye supplier? Never tried it myself (yet) but I'm told Dylon fabric dies work well; the ones in the little round aluminium tins.
Bill |
V8Eng | 18/07/2018 22:08:52 |
1826 forum posts 1 photos | This subject has been covered a few times on this forum, I have put a link to some previous threads on here which maybe useful to you. Hope this helps. Edited By V8Eng on 18/07/2018 22:14:09 |
choochoo_baloo | 18/07/2018 23:18:27 |
![]() 282 forum posts 67 photos | Posted by JasonB on 18/07/2018 18:39:27:
Dig out Ramon's articles that were in MEW for a good simple guide. You don't need the special dyes, fountain pen ink works quite well as you can see. How do I order a back copy of MEW? I clicked on the "Back issues" on the header ribbon on this site, but October 2012 MEW isn't listed in the online store? I'm guessing it's not possible to buy just that article, since I clearly don't need the remaining 80% of that issue? |
Boiler Bri | 19/07/2018 07:53:23 |
![]() 856 forum posts 212 photos | I thought it was covered in one of the modelling books by argus. Sorry i can not find a link bri |
Douglas Johnston | 19/07/2018 08:22:23 |
![]() 814 forum posts 36 photos | I seem to recall that someone did a trial using Dylon fabric dyes and concluded that the results were very mixed. If I remember correctly there was a red shade that worked well but some other colours were not worth using. I think small quantities of proper anodising dye can be found on ebay at reasonable cost and this would probably be a good idea for a novice, to increase the chance of success. |
Clive Hartland | 19/07/2018 08:36:34 |
![]() 2929 forum posts 41 photos | EBay list several anodising kits, depends on how much you want to do. The basic kit will do what you want. One comes with a 10 Amp power supply. |
Glyn Davies | 19/07/2018 09:42:07 |
146 forum posts 56 photos | I have tried this, using this article as a guide: **LINK** and got good results, with or without the dye. I bought the black dye as crystals from ebay, a Chinese constant current power supply, also from ebay, used roofing lead as the cathode and aluminium MIG welding wire to hold the components being anodised. I modelled the components in CAD to calculate the surface area and hence the required anodising current. One thing that surprised me was how effective the anodised layer is at not conducting electricity - touching the surface with the ohm meter probes shows infinite resistance. But dunk the item in caustic soda for a few seconds and the anodising is gone and conductivity returns. Apart from all the stuff you need to do it (tank, power supply, battery acid, dye, lead cathodes, work holders etc) what I found a faff was the time required for each stage - anodising, dying, sealing. That's about three hours to do one small component. I'd consider making the part out of black Delrin if you can and save all the trouble.
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Norman Billingham | 19/07/2018 10:28:25 |
56 forum posts | You may want to check first that you can get hold of sulfuric acid of the required (quite high) concentration. The explosives precursors and poisons regulations now say that "From 1 July 2018, members of the public who want to acquire or import sulfuric acid above 15% weight by weight will require an explosives precursors and poisons (EPP) licence”. I've no idea how effective those regulations will be, but they may well make life a lot more difficult. Certainly EPP licenses are not handed out easily. You can still buy anodising kits on ebay.
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Jon | 19/07/2018 18:27:03 |
1001 forum posts 49 photos | Dare say these sellers are not operating by the current law (breaking it) and selling what otherwise would be redundant stock. Getting a explosive licence near on impossible for non business, the paper work, checks etc you just dont want to know even 16 years ago. Tried every dye i could get hold of 15 years ago from Quink to fabric dyes, no luck. Ended up finding a supplier to anodisers over Leicester and had the same powder sent. Different aluminum grades will yield different colours. Depends what you want to do theres three types of anodising.
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Versaboss | 20/07/2018 00:01:24 |
512 forum posts 77 photos | Go ahead with anodising, it's not too difficult! I remembered that (quite some time back) I put a picture from my first trial in my album. A small test piece, coloured with magenta Inkjet ink. I added now another two, showing parts from my tonearms. The blue parts are also done with inkjet ink, blue this time The parts on the other arm are coloured with products from The German firm 'Electronic Thinks' Here you can get all what you needs for your anodising projects. Btw. I made some tests with those textile colours, but no success. It seems that only one of the different Dylon (?) products can be used, and it seems this one is difficult (or impossible) to find. OK, here then the pictures:
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Tim Stevens | 21/07/2018 21:01:21 |
![]() 1779 forum posts 1 photos | Otley says: One thing that surprised me was how effective the anodised layer is at not conducting electricity - touching the surface with the ohm meter probes shows infinite resistance. Well spotted! This is the effect which makes electrolytic capacitors work. Instead of a paper or mica sheet between the two sheets of electrode, they use pure aluminium for both cathode and anode, and anodise one side. The canister is filled with a liquid similar to anodising solution, and the charging process actually keeps the insulating anodised layer in good condition. If you connect such a capacitor the wrong way round, or on AC, the insulating effect fails, a large current can flow, there is usually a bang, and some of the innards are deposited around the device, looking exactly like seagull shit. Enjoy your tea ... Cheers, Tim
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Neil Wyatt | 21/07/2018 21:34:27 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by choochoo_baloo on 18/07/2018 18:22:55:
Forgot to ask, can someone recommend a dye supplier? Try Gateros Plating, very helpful. |
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