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Tractor man29/01/2016 19:28:47
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How do you solve this little machining quandary?

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Tractor man29/01/2016 19:29:47
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Dovetails set at 90 degrees to each other cut in steel and brass.

Michael Gilligan29/01/2016 19:36:39
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Presumably it's a single dovetail, running at 45° across the square.

... unless, of course it's a neat bit of inlay work devil

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Ian P29/01/2016 19:42:10
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Could it be two dovetails parallel to each other at 45degrees across the square face.

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JA29/01/2016 19:45:08
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How about two dovetails in the form of a cross and a very large hammer?

Err, no!

[Sorry, I could not resist it]

JA

Edited By JA on 29/01/2016 19:45:58

Mike Poole29/01/2016 19:48:52
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If all 4 faces have a dovetail then it is 2 dovetails at 45°, if only the 2 faces shown then it is one at 45°

Mike

Graham Butcher29/01/2016 19:59:11
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For those that want to know how to make one. This video will explain... https://youtu.be/a3V42KwLTeE

Graham

Bodger Brian29/01/2016 20:09:16
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There was a 'how to' article in the ME quite a few years ago.

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Tractor man29/01/2016 21:04:22
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Yes its a 45 degree dovetail job. Got me scratching my head when I first saw one and I just had to have a go. Looks easy but crikey it took some thinking out. Mick
Robert Dodds29/01/2016 22:32:30
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Think turning not milling. And taper turning at that!! Then twist to lock.

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Edited By Robert Dodds on 29/01/2016 22:34:28

John Olsen30/01/2016 04:16:34
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Back when I used to write for Model Engineer I wrote up how to make one of these. Mine was done on a shaper since these are a good machine for doing dovetails without fancy dovetail cutters. The usual approach is the two dovetails at 45 degrees to the faces. You can also make them by setting up each block with one corner along the axis of the lathe and making the dovetails on each part as a quarter circle, then as Robert described above they twist in together. Either way the work wants to be accurate and close fitting, or else it becomes easy to see how it works.

I first saw this idea as a woodworking exercise in either Popular Science of Practical Mechanics back in the late fifties or early sixties, but would assume it is much older than that.

John

John Reese31/01/2016 04:05:43
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Clickspring has a video on YouTube showing how he made one.

Sam Stones31/01/2016 04:21:27
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A bit like this. Cut by hand from huon pine. I only had a saw, a chisel, and a couple of files. Very laborious!

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Tractor man31/01/2016 07:16:40
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Yes its shown as a woodworking puzzle in many cases. Quite a fun item to make and a conversation piece for engineers and less advanced beings lol.
Tractor man31/01/2016 07:19:49
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mark costello 131/01/2016 20:12:07
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Ya know if a ball dedent was positioned to make the parts snap together and offer a little resistance to disassambly, and possibly make it harder to figure out..

Sam Stones01/02/2016 18:36:02
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What it looks like now, but no spring-loaded detent.

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Muzzer01/02/2016 20:43:19
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Posted by Robert Dodds on 29/01/2016 22:32:30:

Think turning not milling. And taper turning at that!! Then twist to lock.

Bob D

Edited By Robert Dodds on 29/01/2016 22:34:28

Indeed. And tonight's Fusion 360 challenge turned(!) out to be relatively straightforward.

The woodworkers like the sliding version which is easier for them. But if you avoid the Brown Stuff, you can make stuff like this:

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Murray

Muzzer01/02/2016 21:09:34
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Fusion challenge part 2 - sliding version.

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mark costello 103/02/2016 00:17:05
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You guys are a dastardly bunch!

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