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Michael Gilligan27/03/2013 10:30:44
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For info:

It turns out that the "Monument" version of the Shetack DTC is the real thing ...

See here

MichaelG.

Gary Wooding27/03/2013 10:36:30
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Posted by Bazyle on 23/03/2013 17:10:05:

Bob, please can you do a higer resolution picture of the disc thing, perhaps just the sector and a bit of the scale would do.

Hi Bazyle,

Here are pictures of both sides of my, rather old, Shetack. It's not identical to Bob's, but it does have Metric data as well as Imperial.

side1.jpg

side2.jpg

Speedy Builder527/03/2013 15:36:27
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Gary, check your PMs, or look at my album postings. The last 3 photos are from my SHETACK calculator.

Springbok27/03/2013 16:16:44
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Hi David,
Still think that this a great idea ignore the ChEEP CHEEP's as I call them more noise than anything elso. The new people and even me who still has to go to old charts for example what drill do I use on a 5/16"ME hole to tap!! I am quite sure that many of us would not know that of the top of there heads, But I am sure some smartarse will tell me once he has looked it up.

Have you got an old Blackgates cat as this gives all the ME data on there back page.I can send you all the dsts that I have if you all of my dataif you are interested.

kiind regards and keep up the good work
Bob

Springbok27/03/2013 16:18:53
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Garry's pic's have got in the way of this thread

Michael Gilligan27/03/2013 16:48:31
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Posted by Springbok on 27/03/2013 16:18:53:

Garry's pic's have got in the way of this thread

... On what device/operating-system/browser ?

MichaelG.

Kenneth Deighton27/03/2013 19:37:48
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Hi Dave , YES please like many others mine are getting a bit tatty

Ken.

Wolfie28/03/2013 20:50:47
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I'm definitely up for this, especially BSW/BSF tpi for identifying old bolt threads etc

David Clark 106/06/2013 10:56:55
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Hi There

A reader has complained to the Managing Director that 80% is an incorrect percentage of engagement for threads. Despite that I explained how to calculate different percentages of engagement.

What are your opinions on percentage of engagement for ME threads as used for boiler fittings.

regards David

Packmule06/06/2013 11:23:29
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I use the following :**LINK** just copy and paste what you want. hope this helps. Bob sorry for the layout ,I can't get the return key to work when posting

John Shepherd06/06/2013 11:41:35
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David

Tubal Cain recommends 65% engagement up to 3/8 and 70 - 75% thereafter in the Model Engineers Handbook but that is not specific to boiler fittings. There is also a table for the % engagement for different materials that ranges from 50% to 75%. The only mention of a figure above this is 85% when tapping sheet steel when the thickness is less than the core dia of the thread. (I believe these are recommendations for use in the home workshop and not those used in production engineering).

Hope that helps

mechman4806/06/2013 12:24:34
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Much as I support & welcome Daves idea for inclusion of charts; look in Roebucks 'ZEUS' pocket book (usual disclaimer).. available on flea bay etc, it has everything you would need .. tapping sizes, drill coordinates for jig boring, trigonometry, tapers, BS 4500.A ISO hole & shaft fits, etc,etc. The latest version I have.. metric revision, now includes - symbols & abreviations used on Engineering Dwgs, Misc' function words from USA-EIA standard, G code addresses for NC, letter addresses used in NC..

Cheers

George

John McNamara06/06/2013 13:41:46
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Hi David Clark

Good to see you back in the shed......

If you do decide to include charts How about plasticising them so that they keep clean. It would cost more but maybe the advertisers could use the back (Only please). Would that earn enough to pay for them? IF so you could make it a regular feature.

Cheers
John

Edited By John McNamara on 06/06/2013 13:42:27

Danny M2Z06/06/2013 14:01:13
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G'day

Although this is not a chart (of which I love the idea), it is a really good unit converter. Lol, it even does light years to millimeters. **LINK**

Regards from the land of the kangaroo

Cu Later * Danny M *

John Haine06/06/2013 14:02:33
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Make it a PDF

Put it on this site

Update it every so often as people suggest additional data

Print it in ME/MEW once a year.

This is 2013 folks.
Gary Wooding06/06/2013 15:06:21
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Posted by mechman48 on 06/06/2013 12:24:34:

Much as I support & welcome Daves idea for inclusion of charts; look in Roebucks 'ZEUS' pocket book (usual disclaimer).. available on flea bay etc, it has everything you would need .. tapping sizes, drill coordinates for jig boring, trigonometry, tapers, BS 4500.A ISO hole & shaft fits, etc,etc. The latest version I have.. metric revision, now includes - symbols & abreviations used on Engineering Dwgs, Misc' function words from USA-EIA standard, G code addresses for NC, letter addresses used in NC..

Cheers

George

Interestingly, I've just checked my rather old (1976) version of ZEUS, and calculated that its recommended tapping drill sizes are based on an approx 80% thread engagement.

Make of it what you will.

Gary

Matts BitsNBobs06/06/2013 16:58:34
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I went on google images, loads of conversion chart on there, pinted them off, laminated and hung on a nail in my workshop, like these

**LINK**

JasonB06/06/2013 17:15:10
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DC, I would say 80% is a good idea for boiler fittings as there is a risk of the crests being burn/scorched away during soldering so having the larger engagement will "ensure screw threads are of adequate depth to maintain sufficient strength" as required by the regs.

J

Stub Mandrel06/06/2013 20:45:44
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Having got used to metric taps which have different top diameters for each (taper, second, plug) tap, I now use a much bigger %engagement (80-90%) for metric threads. For other threads (where all my taps have the same top diameter) I generally use one number drill smaller than Tubal Caine recommends.

Neil

David Clark 107/06/2013 20:02:56
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Hi There

I remember Zeus as 80% and thought it would be a good idea especially for boiler fittings.

The days of assuming a model engineer needs a large hole so he does not break a tap are long gone.

regards David

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