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Neil Wyatt27/10/2017 18:32:10
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Posted by Mike Poole on 27/10/2017 14:44:37:

Perhaps skilled people should be protectionist like accountants and lawyers etc. If they have to bring their car to a protected mechanic they might find it costs them £300 an hour.

Mike

It's called a car sales and maintenance franchise...

larry Phelan27/10/2017 18:42:51
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How about this for an insult

You are just "Run-of-the-mill

You dont know the drill

You are just boring

We are a cut above you

You are way off ect,ect ect

I could go on and on !!

A guy I used to work with always said "I dont care what people say about me as long as it,s true"

ENOUGH SAID !!

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 27/10/2017 19:31:05

larry Phelan27/10/2017 18:56:53
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To Mick ,I say,dead on lets insult them all,why leave anyone out? Stamp collectors ,three huggers,vegges,dog lovers,whatever,insult them all !!!

My answer to all this is that I have been insulted by better people than they are !!

LONG LIVE THE INSULT !!

Mike27/10/2017 19:13:12
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Mick: Don't forget cyclists, line dancers, country walkers, bunny huggers, kids on skateboards. people who watch TV soaps, people who watch Strictly Come Dancing, ..... I could go on for ever! I'll met I have far more unfounded prejudices than you!

Neil Wyatt27/10/2017 19:32:06
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OK, lets try and keep this 'family friendly', we don't have to be rude to be funny...

Mike E.27/10/2017 20:09:35
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Its not worth the effort to acknowledge the media.

larry Phelan27/10/2017 20:42:50
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Lets just get on with doing what we do best [or try to anyway]

MW27/10/2017 20:44:45
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Another good hand grenade thrown into the mix wink

colin hawes28/10/2017 16:15:12
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Some people have the misfortune to be unimpressed with the huge manufacturing and intellectual skills displayed by the hobby machinists and if it gives them pleasure to be derogatory about them I am glad that my pleasure and theirs are complementary. Colin

Andrew Tinsley28/10/2017 16:28:37
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I really don't care a tinkers cuss what people think of me or my hobbies! Water off a duck's back!

B###s to the lot of them,

Andrew.

Nick Wheeler28/10/2017 16:54:45
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Posted by not done it yet on 27/10/2017 07:41:12:

Learning, playing or practising seems to sum up hobbies. All three are, or can be, useful for those taking part. Engineering hobbies can fall under any, or all, of the three categories.

Last Thursday we couldn't practice as normal, so we went to another tower where I: met several new people; rang a totally different ring of bells(light eight compared to a heavy ten); helped some learners; rang a new to me method for the first time; practiced a couple of other methods; drank a couple of pints brewed in the village pub, and had the wide ranging conversation that normally happens after a practice.

That all sounds like a good use of an evening to me, so anyone would have to try bloody hard to be offensive!

Russell Eberhardt28/10/2017 17:06:39
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Posted by larry Phelan on 27/10/2017 14:23:01:

Someone asked "What,s football"? Football is a "Game" where grown men dress up like clowns and chase around a field after a ball [like we used to do when we were kids],trying to kick it between two poles,while those watching them swig beer from cans and mouth curses at them and all around them Sound familiar ?

. . . and Rugby is a game played by men with funny shaped balls smiley

Russell

Geoff Theasby28/10/2017 17:09:35
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went to a meeting at Cutlers Hall on Thursday, opposite the Cathedral. When I came out, the bell ringers were hard at work, serenading me all the way to the bus stop.

Neil, only with a stick forged from the finest Samite, dew-picked in moonlight, by a young maiden, on the Feast of Beltane, and machined on a new Myford ML7 by Brig. The Reverend Chortley Wharnecliffe, CDM, BSc & Bar, (Mrs) of Whizzo Steels and Non Ferrous scrap merchants, Kelham Island, Sheffield.

Geoff

Mike Poole28/10/2017 17:39:02
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What hobby could you have that would have the universal respect of everyone?

Mike

larry Phelan28/10/2017 17:51:49
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Was talking about this to a friend and asked him did he think I was sensitive? He looked at me for a moment,then said "Yes,I think you are,but then so is a hand grenade"

Some people can be very hurtful !!

Stewart Mason28/10/2017 18:56:20
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I never read newspapers, or watch TV news, occasionally out of sheer morbid curiosity, I might look a national or international news story on the internet as I chew my cornflakes, but that's it. Chances of even coming across such a story ? Minimal. As the holder of a commercial pilot's licence I long since gave up reading silly accounts of aviation accidents in the press. You know the sort of thing, 'We nearly died'.....No. No you didn't. I have just as little time for accounts of hobbies deemed 'uncool' by the masses. Just rise above it, and carry on enjoying yourself.

Bazyle29/10/2017 00:22:46
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Posted by Mike Poole on 28/10/2017 17:39:02:

What hobby could you have that would have the universal respect of everyone?

Mike

I venture that music related hobbies get an order of magnitude more respect than engineering related ones. Then within that it will depend on the instrument but there is still appreciation of the skill involved. Mandolin or banjo come in low as they are a bit unusual and associated with well you know who, electric guitar has a generational bias and acoustic guitar can be seen as a bit hippie. Brass is brash. Violins can be associated with gypsies and peasant fiddlers. Orchestral wind comes in the strongest with oboe perhaps at the top as it really has seldom been tainted by being used outside the perceived respectability of an orchestra.

Martin Dowing29/10/2017 08:43:58
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Peoples who need calculator to divide 40 by 4 cannot offend me, regardless what they do or say, and these are the peoples to whom such production is mainly addressed.

They are best left alone and need addressing only if *absolutely* necessary.

Regarding girlfriends - widely understood Western lot is of increasingly poor quality (don't last long and are expensive in maintanence) and very much like anything else they are going to be replaced by cheaper and better Asian imports. Older of you with useful Western wives are lucky. I have settled with Asian from Far East failing to find anything useful here despite of much efforts. Works for 25+ years, inexpensive to maintain, provides quality domestic services long time ago expected from Western wives as well, can think/read/walk 20 miles without fuss, very rarely watch TV and doesn't mingle with useless mob. Couldn't do without...

Regarding TV - within last 3 months I have watched it maybe 5 hours.

Martin

SillyOldDuffer29/10/2017 10:07:17
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Posted by Martin Dowing on 29/10/2017 08:43:58:

Peoples who need calculator to divide 40 by 4 cannot offend me, regardless what they do or say, and these are the peoples to whom such production is mainly addressed.

They are best left alone and need addressing only if *absolutely* necessary.

...

Martin

I've learned to be much more tolerant of the other guy. Very few people don't deserve my respect. I believe that everybody is good at 30 things. Thirty different things!

Not everyone is good at arithmetic, nor does being good at sums prove you are smarter than the average Joe. Knowing the answer to 40 divided by 4 usually means only that you have a good memory, you learned the fact by rote as a child. If challenged to prove that 40 divided by 4 really is 10, and can't ever be anything else, most of us would flounder badly. Proving the truth is much more difficult than looking it up or remembering the answer,

I realised how ignorant I am when I heard about Bertrand Russell and Alfred Whitehead's proof in 'Principia Mathematica' that 1 + 1 = 2

It concludes:

oneplusone.jpg

If I read the gooblygook correctly, that section of proof depends on six other mathematical proofs made earlier. Whilst the proof is impressive, and shows that I'm certainly not as clever as I like to think I am, and that Bertrand Russell was a genius, it doesn't mean that Bertrand Russell was good at everything. Quite the opposite.

As I've mellowed I learned to give people the benefit of the doubt, not to jump to conclusions based on race, gender, creed,sexual orientation, or any other superficial attribute like wealth, celebrity or job. I hope others forgive my foolish ways!

Respect to you all.

Dave

ChrisH29/10/2017 10:37:33
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Dividing 40 by 4 is only simple basic mental arithmetic, helped by learning the "times tables", which was how things were taught when I was a little lad at school. Trouble is, that teaching of the three R's of which basic mental arithmetic was part, which served us oldies so well, has been dropped from teaching now, along with common sense in favour of new more fashionable teaching methods which are still to be proved it seems, and certainly don't provide the same basic understanding of numbers.

My wife was a teacher, thankfully gave it up and became a 'classroom support' worker for the last few years before she retired. Again, back in the day (our day) such a position was unknown, the teacher was expected to teach on their own and did. One day about 15 years ago she came home and described to me the latest 'approved' method of teaching division to primary school children. I could not believe how complicated and long winded the method was or how many chances it gave for the pupil to get it wrong and how long it took compared to the method we were taught as kids. The chances of the children readily understanding what they were doing was very small and my wife totally agreed - and she is no mathematician - but that is the method they had to use then.

I don't blame the folk that can't divide 40 by 4, I blame the trendy modern teaching methods that are failing to get the message across, that do not work and of allowing the use of calculators to do all the brain work for them instead of actually teaching the subject properly first so the child understands what they are doing without aids like calculators. The kids are not being taught to think for themselves first - just get a machine to do it.

Rant over for today!

Chris. Confirmed Anorak.

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