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Clive Hartland17/05/2014 21:34:40
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Are not them Police too busy doing historical sexual acts against celebrities now? If you are done over and it is obviously fraudulent and you have the persons details and go round and start remonstrating with them they will call the Police on you. You know what happens then, the Police will start on you as its easier to do! Sometimes if a thing looks too good to be true then it usually is. There is also the dreaded EU tax shambles if you buy from the other side of the Channel, it upped my payment by about 20% on a quality lens I bought from Holland. Of course if I sell that lens I will add that 20%

Clive

David Colwill17/05/2014 22:51:40
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The police will act but they do have the odds stacked against them. Also it isn't eapsy to speak directly to them. All reports are made to action fraud who collect the information and pass it on. What happens next is not made clear to you. The company that I know who got caught by this haven't heard anything for 2 months so make of that what you will. My purpose in making this post was to warn people who may find themselves on the wrong end of these scammers. I find it hard to believe the number of people who seem to think that they are protected by the likes of eBay PayPal and the banks etc. The only way to protect yourself is to not get caught in the first place.
Alan Waddington 225/06/2014 20:46:51
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If i suspect an item on Ebay is suspicious I usually do a google search for the item which invariably throws up the earlier genuine ebay sale that the scammer has cloned, having reported a few machine tools to ebay which are clearly fake listings I have to say they are positively glacial when it comes to removing them, and bids are often still being placed days later.
Quite often the seller will have multiple random items for sale, if you do the same google search on those items it will again throw up the original genuine sale which will have identical pictures and description.
Markers to raise suspicion include zero feedback, cheap "buy it now" prices, and remote locations
Apologies if I'm teaching granny to suck eggs, but judging by the amount of people bidding on some of these items, plenty must be blissfully unaware of the potential outcome.
Al.

Rik Shaw26/06/2014 08:59:38
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Thanks for the info Alan. I had no idea this sort of thing was going on and no, certainly in my case, you are not teaching granny (or grampy) to suck eggs.

Rik

Alan Waddington 208/07/2014 21:29:53
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Forgot to include the hacked ebay account scam, where the seller appears to have plenty of good feedback.

have a look at this, which i reckon is an example of a hacked account.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Vertical-Machining-Center-Haas-VF-0-CNC-/371098179398?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Then do a google search using the advert title..........recognise the picture !

The American flag is a bit of a give away too.

Ok could be someone selling a genuine item and using a stock photo, but i doubt it......scammier than a scammy thing i reckon.

Edited By Alan Waddington 2 on 08/07/2014 21:31:39

WALLACE08/07/2014 22:12:01
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I love that one - postage is free second class delivery !

The postman is going to struggle getting that one into his bag....


W.
Alan Waddington 208/07/2014 22:15:39
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Crikey, it only had one bid of 99p when i posted the link, its up to £311 now!........are you lot bidding on itcheeky

WALLACE08/07/2014 22:41:00
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It's the postage which shows it's a scam. Anything that big would usually say something about a pallet or fork lift truck being available for the buyer to collect - or if a dealer, a rate per mile for delivery.


Someone's going to be disappointed ......


W.
Oompa Lumpa08/07/2014 23:09:47
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Posted by WALLACE on 08/07/2014 22:41:00:
It's the postage which shows it's a scam. Anything that big would usually say something about a pallet or fork lift truck being available for the buyer to collect - or if a dealer, a rate per mile for delivery.


Someone's going to be disappointed ......


W.

Not really, I have made that mistake myself when ebay has helpfully completed all the fields for me.

What stands out really is the total lack of information. Where is the machine, what was it used for, that sort of thing. But the alarm bells really start when I read the last sentence:

am happy to answer questions by email sunyday02@gmail com - if you need any further information about this sale please do not hesitate to contact me sunyday02@gmail com
Great buy it now price!!!

I will bet it is a great!!! Buy!!! it!!! Now!!!

Anyone who reads that last bit should immediately be aware something is up. I fancy biding it up myself for a laugh. I sometimes do and make outrageous demands of the seller. You know, My Uncle is going to pay you but it will be an overpayment, would you get the cash ready for when he comes to collect. That sort of thing is always a hoot.

graham.

Steven Vine08/07/2014 23:39:26
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Interesting. The machine was for sale in March and April, located on the Isle of Lewis at that time.

Same wording (1068 hrs) and spelling mistakes.

**LINK**

You'd think Ebay would have the experience and resources to automatically combat this type of goings on.

Steve

Manofkent09/07/2014 07:17:53
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I see it is located in Usk. I nearly fell for a similar scam once - located in remote Scotland. A friend telephoned the local post office who confirmed the address was a summer holiday letting property! This would only work in small villages of course!

John Shepherd09/07/2014 07:36:40
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Read about a chap recently who was making money by searching out items on Ebay that had typos/spelling mistakes or misplaced categories that hid them from normal searches. Because of that, they didn't attract bids so he was able to buy them cheaply and sell them on at a profit.

Russ B09/07/2014 11:45:10
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Geek alert cool Google searches for more than just words!

Open a google page, and at the top right, click images or use this link - or text search "images" perhaps..... anyway, get to the google images page here.... **LINK**

if you have a browers that opens multiple tabs(if you don't the theory is the same), as many do these days, have the listing open in one tab, and the images search in another - and click and hold the auction image, and drag it to the search box on your google images tab (hover over the tab "image in hand" and your browser will flick to that tab, then drop it in to the search box)

it will spit out a list of places that image is used. This is useful if people are using library pictures etc. as you can find the source of the image (Tesco direct or Chronos tools perhaps and so on) - try it with an image from someone's signature, and you'll get links to everywhere their picture appears! (there's two pages full for John Shepherd yes)

Well worth having a play with this powerful search function - it can uncover all sorts of information just from a picture.

 

Edited By Russ B on 09/07/2014 11:47:13

Steven Vine09/07/2014 13:38:42
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Geek alert cool Google searches for more than just words!

Thanks Russ. I got that to work, did not know that existed. thumbs up

I could not leave it alone though. I then went on and installed the google image search Add On for Firefox. Now if I right click over an image on a webpage, the 'right click' context menu that appears has the extra option 'Search Google with this image'. Simply left click the new menu option to enter the Google image search. Nice.

Steve

Russ B09/07/2014 13:47:32
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Posted by Steven Vine on 09/07/2014 13:38:42:

did not know that existed. thumbs up

Ditto, I'm installing that add on now thanks! laugh

Edit* also, if you use Google Chrome rather than Firefox, you've already got this feature - right click any image (almost any)

Edited By Russ B on 09/07/2014 13:49:24

martin perman09/07/2014 14:09:48
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Just right clicked on an image here and found I was knee deep smiley I didnt know about it either.

Martin P

Alan Waddington 209/07/2014 18:03:28
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Looks like the advert got pulled by ebay so at least no one got stung this time........Been around a bit has that machine.

Originally for sale in the States, which of course would be the genuine article, then started to appear on UK ebay

March winning bid £11,700 Isle of Lewis

April winning bid £5600 Isle of Lewis

July winning bid £4300 Oldham

July winning bid £???? usk

Its a minefield out there for the unwary buyer......and a sad reflection on society......tread carefully folks wink

Crabtreeengineer13/09/2014 20:07:27
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I always think that its important to get a balanced view of these things! I trade a lot on Ebay & in the main I am just amazed at the honest people out there who are either looking for a bargain or to turn a buck. I have sold stuff all over the world from Japan, Australia to Europe & from a sellers perspective I have to say that the deck is very much stacked in the sellers favour! Some people bid on items with no intention of buying & the seller often gets stiffed with fees. Items are sent back for no other reason than the seller has changed their minds, often the packaging is so badly damaged on return that the seller can no longer sell as new. Claims are made of non delivery when you know full well you mailed the item & suspect the buyer is stringing you along just to get the item for free & don't even get me going on Ebay charges which even run to a percentage of postal costs. The only real recourse a seller has is to block the buyer, but even buyers are changing their ID's faster than I change my socks! The bottom line is that a seller has to cover their risks somewhere & as with the cost of theft from a high street shop, these risks are reflected in higher prices, which again only adds to the coffers of Ebay. One way around all of this is to use Ebay to select the items you want & once you have a relationship with a reputable vendor, for repeat business deal with that vendor outside of Ebay....prices will be cheaper! Check out my Ebay listings for quality items from Groz. Regards R

Jesse Hancock 122/01/2015 23:32:36
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Crabtreeengineer,

Selling has always been a hard game to be really successful at. Engineers are fussy people as you can tell from the items they photograph and place on this site. If that doesn't tell anything then perhaps you shouldn't be selling to engineers? Bear in mind, If the description doesn't match expectations or do the job they had hoped to do, then most will return said goods.

Ebay is it's own worst enemy for selling "Bargains" which to an older man means a pot of gold for a pot of silver.

Hard choices both sides of the fence considering the amount of money pensioners have to blow on toys which give them more work. However I do wish you well because if it wasn't for people like you perhaps there wouldn't be a popular hobby such as this.

Jesse

Edited By Jesse Hancock 1 on 22/01/2015 23:36:27

Edited By Jesse Hancock 1 on 22/01/2015 23:37:09

UJ Newton23/01/2015 08:39:17
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I got caught once ,fortunately not much money involved, awaiting delivery of something I saw it on anorher seller site already sold..What annoyed me most was my negative feedback never appeared..How do they do that?
I had a bit of a fright again when having won a first class little Flexispeed miller from an equally first class seller I saw the same machine on Tony Griffiths lathe site..The seller had put them there not the other way round!

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