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Tony Jeffree19/09/2023 10:29:22
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 17/09/2023 10:41:48:
Posted by Mark Rand on 16/09/2023 23:14:09:

I would like to humbly point out that the plural of radius is radii...

Let me put a spoke in the wheel!

As Archimedes was Greek, and didn't speak Latin, it's obvious the right word must be Ακτίνες. Pity I can't pronounce it.

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Dave

Its all Greek to me...laugh

SillyOldDuffer19/09/2023 10:38:38
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Posted by Chris Crew on 19/09/2023 09:22:23:

... Their contact address commenced as 'National Sortation Centre'......... That's a new word to me, never heard of 'sortation' before. ... Is this yet another 'americanisation' of our wonderful language? I sincerely hope not!

Sortation isn't quite the same as 'sort', at least in the technical sense. It means a mechanised sort process or processes. I don't know if the word hales from the US or not but appending .ation to verbs is common in British English. Visit and visitation etc.

Engineers can't complain about others abusing the English language. Turning, thread, mill, and lathe, were all jargon in their day. Lay folk often pinch technical terms too: I have a cast-iron case and will blow a gasket if anyone disagrees!

Apparently some Americans are offended by Britishisms catching on in the US. What a bunch of muppets!

devil

Dave

Tony Jeffree19/09/2023 10:42:04
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...and remember, any noun can be verbed...devil

Chris Crew19/09/2023 12:44:02
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Posted by Tony Jeffree on 19/09/2023 10:42:04:

...and remember, any noun can be verbed...devil

You learn something new every day, I had never heard of 'verbed' either!

Nick Wheeler19/09/2023 12:54:01
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Posted by Tony Jeffree on 19/09/2023 10:42:04:

...and remember, any noun can be verbed...devil

What most of us find annoying is when there is a verb that already does that job. One that doesn't sound like it was made up by a drunk American middle-manager trying to sound clever.

Neil Wyatt19/09/2023 13:15:14
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I was more concerned about the amount of maths in 332... I decided to focus a bit on angles and related issues, but on re-reading it feels a bit too heavy on the one topic?

Different topics in the next issue, promise!

And maybe something radiicalus?

Neil

bernard towers19/09/2023 13:22:25
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You can please some of the people etc. etc. And it’s er16 not 15,,

Simon036219/09/2023 13:22:47
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And maybe something radiicalus?

Neil

That sounds horribilis...

ega19/09/2023 14:21:11
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Posted by Mark Rand on 17/09/2023 12:15:00:...Don't get me started on the (lack of) quality of proof reading on the BBC's web sites and news scripts. angry

The BBC website is so speckled with schoolboy howlers that I think it must be staffed by juvenile semi-literates.

PS It is common ground that radii and radiuses are alternatives but using the former does at least distinguish it from the verbal form.

PPS How about, Boldly to Go?

Mike Poole19/09/2023 14:40:28
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The Telegraph journalists seem confused about the correct us of home and hone.

Mike

Bazyle19/09/2023 15:25:58
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I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

Tony Jeffree19/09/2023 15:30:14
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Posted by Bazyle on 19/09/2023 15:25:58:

I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

Easiest solution - rename it as Jim's Cafe...

Mick B119/09/2023 16:37:37
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Posted by JasonB on 17/09/2023 06:59:36:

But on the other hand lets encourage people to send in articles otherwise you won't have content to complain aboutdevil

Well actually you will as there will be moans about Neil using old articles to bulk out the content.

I'm happy with either and know what is meant, maybe it's because I'm a bit common and never went to a posh school where Latin was a subjectsmile p

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Edited By JasonB on 17/09/2023 07:29:41

Unfortunately posh English schools were configured to turn out military and civil officers to administer an empire that was disintegrating even 60 years ago. They made a point of propagating formal linguistic skills and avoiding any practical skills involving the manipulation of materials.

It took a lot of time and effort to reverse that with the autodidaction bit.

Nick Wheeler19/09/2023 17:41:27
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Posted by Bazyle on 19/09/2023 15:25:58:

I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

It could be James' or James's depending on what you would say. The apostrophe is necessary.

Peter Greene19/09/2023 18:50:19
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 19/09/2023 10:38:38:

Apparently some Americans are offended by Britishisms catching on in the US.

 

 

Way, way more the other way round it seems to me.

Like their awful use of "alternate" when they mean "alternative". It's already de-rigueur in Canada and soon will be in the UK.

(My - admitted old - copy of Webster's actually has them correctly defined).

Edited By Peter Greene on 19/09/2023 18:52:02

Bill Phinn19/09/2023 19:09:41
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Posted by Mike Poole on 19/09/2023 14:40:28:

The Telegraph journalists seem confused about the correct us of home and hone.

Mike

Are you thinking of "home/hone in on", by any chance, Mike?

Neil Wyatt19/09/2023 21:53:52
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Posted by Bazyle on 19/09/2023 15:25:58:

I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

James' Cafê

Although not everyone approves of that usage.

Neil

Michael Gilligan19/09/2023 22:09:10
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2023 21:53:52:

 

Cafê

 

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dont know

That looks suspiciously Spanish, Neil

MichaelG.

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But getting back to the question …
 

James’ with the apostrophe but without  the second s would be my preference, but many believe that form should only be used with plurals, not with words that just happen to end with s 

 

Incidentally; here is a good precedent for using  James

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_Infirmary_Blues

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 19/09/2023 22:17:59

Martin Connelly20/09/2023 07:50:32
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In my youth I worked on Saturdays in Lewis's department store. I remember checking the possessive 's used like this and found out that if names ended in s this was considered to be correct.

Martin C

Tony Jeffree20/09/2023 08:28:19
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2023 21:53:52:
Posted by Bazyle on 19/09/2023 15:25:58:

I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

James' Cafê

Although not everyone approves of that usage.

 

Neil

...or Jameses cafe (as in "keeping up with the Joneses" )

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