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Thread: Opinions of Mach3 Turn
28/09/2023 15:08:46
Posted by Nealeb on 28/09/2023 14:58:29:

I decided in the end to go with the PlanetCNC option. No, it does not have the CSS feature (at least, not yet) but I think it does have feed per rev, and supports a shaft encoder for speed control and threading. I might have been swayed by the LinuxCNC/Mesa option and accepted the work involved in setting it all up, but the desirable Mesa cards seem unavailable (according to the Mesa web site) and I'm not that happy with the idea of continuing use of tthe parallel port. I'm now collecting all the bits I need to get installing sometime soon.

The ELS+extras solution seems less desirable for a from-the-ground-up CNC lathe as opposed to upgrading from a manual machine which is a different story. In fact, I have been thinking for a long time about an ELS addition to my Smart and Brown to allow easy imperial threading on a metric machine, and to simplify metric threading as well (nice-to-use threading gearbox but stil have to change the TDI gear for some pitches).

I would agree - if you are planning on going full fat CNC then the PlanetCNC option looks very attractive. In my case, an easy to use ELS that provides the basic functions (threading, facing, turning, tapers, ball turning...) is pretty much all I need.

28/09/2023 12:07:18
Posted by Tony Jeffree on 26/09/2023 10:17:25:
Posted by John Haine on 25/09/2023 18:19:46:

The second seems to be just an ELS at the moment though implied it may be upgraded to full cnc.

There is a bit more detail here:

https://github.com/kachurovskiy/nanoels/blob/main/h4/README.md

Does indeed look as if G-code support is a work in progress. One attraction to me is that it supports a shaft encoder, rather than a single pulse-per-rev encoder, so the threading support shouldn't suffer the problems that can occur with 1PPR encoders. I bought one of the early John Dammeyer ELS kits and this aspect of its operation wasn't good.

The fact that it doesn't need a PC for the more straightforward operations is a plus too. At the price I'm tempted to give it a go.

26/09/2023 10:17:25
Posted by John Haine on 25/09/2023 18:19:46:

The second seems to be just an ELS at the moment though implied it may be upgraded to full cnc.

There is a bit more detail here:

https://github.com/kachurovskiy/nanoels/blob/main/h4/README.md

Thread: Will this heater idea work
22/09/2023 12:27:57

A couple of points...

Running immersion heaters of any kind without a water jacket is asking for trouble - they are designed on the assumption that they will be in contact with water and will potentially overheat if they are not.

Heating up a brick in your oven simply increases the amount of time it will take for the oven to heat up - there are no free lunches there I'm afraid.

If you get 300W worth of sunshine during the winter months (very far from certain I'm afraid), the best you will manage is about a couple of units (1 unit = 1 killowatt-hour) of stored heat - so equivalent to having a convector heater on for about an hour. Bear in mind that the heat will be given out over the full 24 hours. I doubt if you would see much benefit TBH.

Thread: Opinions of Mach3 Turn
22/09/2023 11:45:20

A couple of other alternatives that I have come across recently, and that both appear to support a spindle encoder:

https://www.masso.com.au/product/masso-touch-lathe-cnc-controller/

https://kachurovskiy.com/products/4-axis-electronic-lead-screw-controller

No experience of either.

Thread: Gib Adjusters and the English Language!
22/09/2023 09:44:27

...and of course, let's not forget the famously unpronounceable Worcestershire...

21/09/2023 16:32:12

It is a matter of what you are used to. I've always pronounced it Jib but I know some engineers that use the hard G Gib.

A similar problem can occur with the G in Giga - Gigabyte, Gigabit etc., which in my usage (and all the techies I know) takes the hard G, but my brother insists on pronouncing it Jiga... very grating on my ear.

Thread: MEW 332
20/09/2023 10:24:58
Posted by Nick Wheeler on 20/09/2023 10:13:57:
Posted by Tony Jeffree on 20/09/2023 08:28:19:

...or Jameses cafe (as in "keeping up with the Joneses" )

Joneses in that phrase is a plural, not possessive.

True enough, but that doesn't stop it being a perfectly good name for the cafe that avoids the apostrophe debate, which was the point

20/09/2023 08:28:19
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2023 21:53:52:
Posted by Bazyle on 19/09/2023 15:25:58:

I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

James' Cafê

Although not everyone approves of that usage.

 

Neil

...or Jameses cafe (as in "keeping up with the Joneses" )

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19/09/2023 15:30:14
Posted by Bazyle on 19/09/2023 15:25:58:

I know a bloke named James who has a cafe. Is it "James cafe" or "James's cafe" ?

The first sort of sounds better but I think the second is technically correct. This is a real issue at the moment as the " 's" is 18 inches high and someone has asked for it to be removed.

Easiest solution - rename it as Jim's Cafe...

19/09/2023 10:42:04

...and remember, any noun can be verbed...devil

19/09/2023 10:29:22
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 17/09/2023 10:41:48:
Posted by Mark Rand on 16/09/2023 23:14:09:

I would like to humbly point out that the plural of radius is radii...

Let me put a spoke in the wheel!

As Archimedes was Greek, and didn't speak Latin, it's obvious the right word must be Ακτίνες. Pity I can't pronounce it.

sad

Dave

Its all Greek to me...laugh

Thread: Latest ME, ELS Article
18/09/2023 16:48:38

Maybe I should take a leaf out of your book John and give the wizards another go!

Thread: Brilliant service
16/09/2023 13:27:02

They are a great company to deal with in my experience.

Thread: 2 pole or 4 pole for Myford ML7R
15/09/2023 09:52:55
Posted by Chris152 on 13/07/2023 17:50:56:

I'm thinking to convert our lathe from single phase to 3 phase with an inverter. Top speed on our lathe is 2105; speed on the 4 pole we're looking at is 1400, and the 2 pole is 2800. So far we've not gone beyond the 600 that the slow pulley gives and that seems fine for now, but that may change.
From what I've read, it's ok to run the motor at 60 Hz and increase the 4 pole speed to about 1700. Is that correct, and if so, given that it doesn't look like we'll be doing much at high speeds/ narrower diameters, would 4 pole be a better bet for us?

I guess my question in short is, is there any disadvantage in using a 2 pole motor compared to a 4?

I bought one of the early Newton Tesla conversion kits for my ML-7 a good few years ago. At the time they routinely set the VFD's frequency range to 0-60 Hz. I was planning to upgrade the headstock bearings/spindle to bronze shells and hardened spindle, so I asked them to programme the VFD for 0-120 Hz, which more than doubled the speed range of the lathe. I have been using that configuration for many years now and it works very well indeed.

Thread: Latest ME, ELS Article
13/09/2023 09:17:30

Simon

I would second what you have said - I converted my ML7 to CNC a few years ago, and I have to admit that the number of times I have used it under CNC control, other than to prove that it works, is small. I deliberately converted it in a way that makes it dual purpose - manual or CNC - and that was a very sound choice.

Regards,

Tony

12/09/2023 21:17:46

Boards now sold!

12/09/2023 17:19:30

I bought one of the Clough42 "C4228 ELS PCB Control Panel Combo Kit"s in a fit of enthusiasm having seen his videos, but it is increasingly clear that I won't ever get around to building anything with the bits. The display and the interface board are both in their original unopened antistatic bags. Seems a bit of a waste for them to gather dust, so if anyone fancies having a go, an electronic £25 note secures - contact me via the forum's messaging system.

The kit consists of:

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Box it came in

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Display/keyboard unit

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Cutouts for the display

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Buttons & hardware

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C4227 board

Thread: Interesting Curves
10/09/2023 22:11:51

I discovered another "Spirograph" sim that allows drawing the path of points outside the rolling circle. Unfortunately it only allows you to draw the effect of a circle rolling round the inside of another, larger one, but a bit of mental straightening out of the containing circle gives you the idea.

cycloid 2.jpg

The red trace is of a point on the circumference of the rolling circle, so this is our familiar cycloid form. The blue trace is at half the radius of the rolling circle (R/2) - clearly not a cycloid. The two green traces are of a point at 2*R and 3*R - as shown in Michael's image above you get the "curlicues" added where the trace loops back on itself - again, clearly not cycloids. It is quite an amusing toy - https://seedcode.com/SpirographN/sgn.html

Edited By Tony Jeffree on 10/09/2023 22:13:15

Thread: Isochronous knife edge suspension?
09/09/2023 14:51:58
Posted by david bennett 8 on 09/09/2023 14:26:23:

I think I now see where the confusion comes from. Much of this discussion has become about Huygens cycloidal cheeks and how they are constructed. The 1/2 pendulum length roller is needed for that.

The method I proposed is based on the rolling wheel principal to produce a cycloidal path. That is a completely different approach to Huygens. The question now is - does the diameter of the roller matter in this context?

dave8

I believe I answered that with the diagram I posted on 07/09/2023 13:41:13 and subsequent posts. The diameter of the roller has to be equal to the effective length of the pendulum, otherwise the bob *does not* follow a cycloid.

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