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Samsaranda30/04/2020 10:16:34
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Don’t know where on the South Coast you live Vintage Engineer but I live in East Sussex and we certainly haven’t lost our gulls, they are as always present and squawking. They are a real pest nesting on flat roofs and being super aggressive once their young start to become mobile. I cannot understand why they are still protected they are a perpetual nuisance.
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Roderick Jenkins30/04/2020 10:23:33
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Posted by Samsaranda on 30/04/2020 10:16:34:

... I cannot understand why they are still protected they are a perpetual nuisance.
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Because being a nuisance is not a capital offence.

Rod

Samsaranda30/04/2020 10:33:25
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It should be Rod. 👹

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Adam Mara30/04/2020 10:34:55
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We live 4 miles from the Wash, I don't know what one of our neighbours puts out, but we often get a flock of seagulls circling round and diving into their garden. They don't visit our garden, probably because at least 4 of the neighbourhood cats use it as a convenience and cat fight ground!

Roderick Jenkins30/04/2020 10:39:02
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Dave,

We shall have to differ on that. I believe in a bit of tolerance.

Stay well smiley

Rod

Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 30/04/2020 10:39:54

Martin Kyte30/04/2020 11:17:45
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Perhaps if we haddn't eaten all the fish?

regards Martin

Frances IoM30/04/2020 11:21:56
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I wonder if Herring Gulls were the first protected species of bird in the British Isles as there is an early 17th Manx regulation that they are not to be molested as their presence signals where the all important herring may be caught
Clive Hartland30/04/2020 11:30:20
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On a hot day just before a thunderstorm the Ants fly out, this triggers a massive Seagull congregation and they wheel about the sky catching the virgin Queen ants as they fly to mate. Not just a few birds but in their hundreds around the Medway estuary.

Bill Davies 230/04/2020 11:47:06
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Clive, I only noticed this a few years ago, I have a video I can't can't upload. The birds wheel about silently, briefly squawking at any noisy ones joining them. I realised last year that it was flying ants that they were taking, bobbing their heads to catch them in flight. Quite a sight. But the seagulls do seem noisier this year, or perhaps the enforced quiet makes it seem so.

Bill

not done it yet30/04/2020 12:00:09
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Posted by Frances IoM on 30/04/2020 11:21:56:
I wonder if Herring Gulls were the first protected species of bird in the British Isles as there is an early 17th Manx regulation that they are not to be molested as their presence signals where the all important herring may be caught

Don’t know how long the ravens in the Tower of London have been protected?

Vic30/04/2020 12:05:02
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Posted by Roderick Jenkins on 30/04/2020 10:39:02:

Dave,

We shall have to differ on that. I believe in a bit of tolerance.

Stay well smiley

Rod

Edited By Roderick Jenkins on 30/04/2020 10:39:54

I agree Rod. It would be a very sad place without our wildlife.

Guy Lamb30/04/2020 13:01:59
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Like most things to do with the environment and gulls specifically, it's all our faults. If we didn't waste thousands of tons of food every year by throwing it in the bin because the 'use by' date has passed and consigning it to land fill or used our noses instead to test weather food was fit to eat and also our nasty little habit of eating food on the hoof, discarding anything we do not consume on the street we would not have a problem with gulls or rats. To bastardise Parkinsons Law: Population expands to the limit of the available food.

JA30/04/2020 13:11:30
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Posted by Guy Lamb on 30/04/2020 13:01:59:

To bastardise Parkinsons Law: Population expands to the limit of the available food.

The Rev. Thomas Malthus, 1766 to 1834.

JA

Samsaranda30/04/2020 14:21:23
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My apologies if I offended you Rod, I am very into wildlife preservation, we have plenty of species inhabiting our large garden and in past years have had hedgehogs breeding there amongst many others. I just get frustrated with Gulls though with their invasions that are noisy and messy. I agree humans are responsible for the Gulls behaviour as we have modified their behaviour and moved them from their natural habitats, so perhaps I need to direct my frustrations at our fellow man.
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Ady130/04/2020 14:30:08
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Posted by Martin Kyte on 30/04/2020 11:17:45:

Perhaps if we haddn't eaten all the fish?

regards Martin

Spot on

We've hoovered almost every living thing from our coastlines, only deep sea fishing remains

I gave up sea fishing, a lifelong hobby, because of the unbelievable drop in baitfish around our coasts

Our coastline is a desert compared to 40 years ago

Stuff like mackrel only survives because it migrates, anything that stayed put around the UK coast got eaten into oblivion years ago

Edited By Ady1 on 30/04/2020 14:32:25

Ady130/04/2020 14:37:49
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You need conservation zones, any commercial fishing vessel found inside a zone gets arrested and scrapped

THIS is what happens when commercial fishing boats are scared away from an area, the recovery rate for fish is almost unbelievable

**LINK**

Frances IoM30/04/2020 16:11:56
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try this on scottish boats known for pillaging + wrecking known Manx conservation zones for shell fish in search for the large scallops that fetch high prices - they are notorious for turning off transponders - one Manx minister for Ag + Fish explained to me post a talk that it wasn't worth the expense of fighting the large Scottish Gov supported company whose boats are apparently owned by their skippers and not the company.
Howard Lewis30/04/2020 18:56:56
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Sadly, Frances, Greed overcomes common sense at almost every turn.

Having said that, it is good to see that in the present situation kindness and generosity are not yet extinct.

Rod is right, tolerance is necessary for us all to survive, although some times it can be a struggle

Howard

Roderick Jenkins30/04/2020 20:19:35
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Living 500 yards from Christchurch harbour, our car is on a regular gull flight path. It never stays clean for more than a day - it can be very frustrating. I have to keep reminding my wife that it's her car, registered in her name devil

Stay well everyone,

Rod

norman valentine30/04/2020 21:22:38
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If you leave the seagull crap on your car for too long it will remove the paint . It happened to my car.

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