Please not just a miscrosft bashing session...
modeng2000 | 30/12/2015 15:03:20 |
340 forum posts 1 photos | Although I was not sure wether to go to W10 or stay with W7 I had a go at upgrading. Despite Microsoft indicating all would be well each time I tried the upgrade it failed back to W7. Various solutions were tried but to no avail. I guess something is saying stick with what I already have. In any case it looks like an upgrade to W10 is not an option for me. My laptop is only about 18 months old so is by no means out of date. John Edited By modeng2000 on 30/12/2015 15:04:23 |
Ady1 | 30/12/2015 15:11:07 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Do win32 and win64 programs run on windows 10 phones?? If they do, some of those sub 100quid phones have like 8 cores and could be amazingly useful mobile computers and could be synched with your windows 10 home computer Edited By Ady1 on 30/12/2015 15:16:08 |
JA | 30/12/2015 15:12:37 |
![]() 1605 forum posts 83 photos | I have Windows 7 on my laptop and, now, Windows 10 on the desktop. The latter had Windows 8, a monumental disaster. Windows 10 happily runs everything I have including Office Word 2007 and Office Excel 2007. I have had some problems with TurboCAD 16 but that is now sorted thanks to the onboard checking softwear. I have not checked out Office PowerPoint yet (I do not use it very often). Firefox works well and I am thinking about using Mozilla's email softwear. I am about to try to use Linux, on Raspberry Pi, having realised it is very closely related to Unix which I used at work. JA |
John Stevenson | 30/12/2015 15:14:47 |
![]() 5068 forum posts 3 photos | Possibly doesn't apply to many on here but it's also an excuse by some software companies to force expensive upgrades onto people because it won't run on W10 and you need to upgrade to XXX 2016
Some programs such as Solidworks are about £1200 per year for upgrades and support whether you use them or not.
I got caught out in the move from XP to W7 then found out after there was a work around to get the old program running on W7. In fact I know some people on this board still running the older program and not paying the yearly upgrade. |
Clive Hartland | 30/12/2015 16:11:28 |
![]() 2929 forum posts 41 photos | I tried the WIN 10 upgrade and 24 hours later dumped it! It removed software that i use regularly because w10 found it non compatible. Further to this some of my hardware would not work with it particularly my Epson printer which is very good. An R300. 6 inks. It wants to run everything for you with a new way of doing things so it's another learning curve which I dont want. I know of nobody who likes it and with the advent of advertising encroaching on everything you do it puts one off ever converting completely. It does load quicker and it uses different terminology for things now. Will I ever convert,,I doubt it as I am happy with WIN 7 but not as happy as I was with XP. Obviously there will be people who fall straight in with it and it will become the main platform for them, others will diversify into other platforms. Clive. I have had to buy another printer now as my R300 started getting blocked, jets 8 years old now. I bought a Canon Pixma but I cannot get inks locally! |
NJH | 30/12/2015 16:17:08 |
![]() 2314 forum posts 139 photos | Mac OSX ........... (OK OK I'll get me coat now! ) Norman |
terry callaghan | 30/12/2015 16:25:15 |
237 forum posts 10 photos | I hated windows 10. it looked to me nothing for then a selling platform for 3rd party film companies. also a lot of my programs stopped working. I have returned to windows 7, much better and all working again. We also have a Mac in the household and that's much better then windows in so many ways. when this pc gives up, I will go Mac. |
John Haine | 30/12/2015 16:36:49 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | Ady, Wi 32 & 64 bit programs are compiled to run on Intel architecture processors, but phones universally use ARM architecture processors, so the answer is almost certainly not. |
AlanW | 30/12/2015 16:53:11 |
92 forum posts 12 photos | I have found no issues with W10; It still runs my trusty CorelDRAW! 9.0. I can't say that I LIKE it because I hate having to re-learn where everything is. My last employer, when I had to work for a living, would change the site-wide operating system every three or four years (after careful evaluation behind the scenes) so I became used to accepting the inconvenience. I was always told it was progress and that I must keep up with the times. Alan |
Dennis Rayner | 30/12/2015 16:57:25 |
![]() 137 forum posts 9 photos | I upgraded from W7 to W10 to use Edge as IE kept on crashing. Then I found that EDGE is incompatible with RoboForm so I was advised to use IE still. Also Microsoft Money will not run in a W10 world. I am now a W7 user again but experimenting with Chrome and Firefox in lieu of IE. Very frustrating - cannot understand Microsoft's strategy. |
Peter Hall | 30/12/2015 17:15:24 |
115 forum posts 1 photos | Just be careful. My laptop went OK, but I upped my netbook to 10 before I got the logo in the taskbar. It's now on a perpetual loop: starts up, then windows needs to reboot, shuts down and starts all over again. I spent an afternoon searching online for a fix and haven't found one yet. It's rendered the machine unusable and I can't get into it to do anything about it. I've found lots of people online with the same problem, but Microsoft seem uninterested in providing a solution.
Pete |
John Hinkley | 30/12/2015 17:25:03 |
![]() 1545 forum posts 484 photos | I have tried Windows 10 on more than one occasion. Didn't like it - I thought that the look was very chunky and like something from the eighties. It also doesn't like my Nvidia video card, especially with the latest drivers. I've gone back to Windows 7 Pro. Far more stable. Dennis - Microsoft Money, as you say, doesn't run on windows 10, but you can download Windows Money Plus de Luxe from Microsoft (for free) and that does. It has the look and feel of the older program and is compatible with the old files, too. Just don't forget to make a back up of your Money file before you use the newer program. John
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Chris Evans 6 | 30/12/2015 17:37:41 |
![]() 2156 forum posts | I upgraded from 8.1 with the thoughts that anything would be better. So far it is mostly better but still not as user friendly for me as XP. |
clivel | 30/12/2015 17:54:33 |
344 forum posts 17 photos | The general consensus from people I have dealt with seems to be that if you are running Windows 7 stick with it, the disadvantages, including the risk of problems such as Pete's, of upgrading to Windows 10 far outweigh any advantages. For those running Windows 8 or 8.1 there is less likelihood of problems when upgrading, so it may be worthwhile, although other than a more Windows 7 like UI, there don't seem to be any especially compelling reasons for upgrading. Either way, it has been my experience, that when upgrading from one MS OS to the next, given the number of UI changes that seem to have been made for no other reason than change for change’s sake, it can take anywhere from a day to a week of wasted time, trying to mould the OS to fit the user's working habits. Clive
Edited By clivel on 30/12/2015 17:55:42 |
Breva | 30/12/2015 17:55:22 |
![]() 91 forum posts 7 photos | My own system in Win 7 and I found it reliably and easy to use. I couldn't be bothered with Win8. I have heard plenty of complaints about Win 10 from friends. It seems logical to me to wait until the last minutes of the free version before installing Win 10, if even then. Historically, Microsoft have taken some time to iron out bugs in new operating systems, so I let them get on with it and save myself the possible hassle. John
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Dennis Rayner | 30/12/2015 17:58:38 |
![]() 137 forum posts 9 photos | John, - I uninstalled my version of Money and downloaded as you suggest before I realised it was a W10 problem and not a Money one. For me it still did not run and when I searched the internet there were various suggestions for a fix which all involved editing the Registry. Some reported it worked and others that it didn't. That's too scary for me which is why I'm a W7 man again. |
CotswoldsPhil | 30/12/2015 18:34:28 |
![]() 196 forum posts 112 photos | My laptop, originally Win 7, is now 4+ years old - I did not like win 7 from the get-go after years of working with XP. I managed to collect all the drivers and install XP onto a replacement HDD in the laptop with some difficulty. I'll get to Win 10 shortly... Teased by the Win 8 hype I eventually installed a fresh installation of Win 8, now 8.1 (following various updates) onto yet another HDD, I've run Office 2000, and Dreamweaver/Fireworks - (web authoring tools) and DCAD 3000 on win 8.1 with no trouble since then. They just need running in administrator mode. Win 8.1 appears to load very quickly, although a regular reboot via a forced power-down seems to improve things. What I don't like about Win 8/8.1 and most likely Win 10 is the regular heavy use of the CPU, HDD and fan following an update. It seems as though the intention is to shorten the life of the hardware. I never liked Win 7 - I find it very slooow even compared to XP, so I eventually upgraded the original Win 7 OEM disk to Win 10 - I fell for the hype again! All seemed to work OK after a lengthy install. However, I've yet to try and install all my legacy applications and see how it turns out. Perhaps I will be a convert, if I can use my legacy applications on win10 (they work on win8.1) I hate the perpetual (costly) upgrade path - if it ain't broke... Phil
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stevetee | 30/12/2015 19:17:48 |
145 forum posts 14 photos | How are people finding Windows 10? All over my computer everytime I turn it on! It is asking me to upgrade. No thanks, the not very old saying , " If something is free it is the user that is being sold" is very true, and so I don't want it, thanks. I think windows is finished , how do I know , when I leaned forward and tried to use my laptop as a touch screen and had to go back to the ' old fashioned ' mouse to move round the screen. I think touch screen technology will wipe the floor with Windows in the next few years. As for Win 10 I went into system 32 and changed the folder GWX to ' dont GWX' now the annoying reminders have gone away. |
V8Eng | 30/12/2015 19:27:19 |
1826 forum posts 1 photos | I have tried to update To W10 on two occasions, on an (approx) 18 month old 11" touch screen Asus notebook that came with W8 pre-installed. The first time was early on in the W10 campaign after running the checker, and being informed that there would not be problems. Well some of my programmes would not run, including the touch pad/buttons and Internet Security, needless to say I went back to 8.1. A couple of weeks ago I decided to try again, the checker said all would be OK. All seemed to go well, apart from the fact that it seems to make big dent in my ISP download allowance. After the install a couple of the minor programmes did not work, not to be deterred I decided to persevere for a while. Running the machine for a couple of days showed that operation had slowed and the wick needed turning up somewhat, also the mouse pointer seemed a bit intermittent. Again I returned the machine to 8.1, this time I started to get warnings about no security products installed, indeed I found that all security systems were disabled even Windows Defender (which would not restart). Having been online without protection, I had to download and re-install my Internet Security product and start again. W10 never again! In fact having used an iPad for a couple of years now, my next PC is more likely to be a fruit based system.
Edited By V8Eng on 30/12/2015 19:29:23 |
NJH | 30/12/2015 20:16:24 |
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V8 I had been running Windows machines since the very early days with few problems. My kids though are artists and graphic designers and have been on at me for years to " get up to date Dad" and buy a Mac. Last year I did so and bought the big machine with the 27" screen. I really like it - it does mean doing things a bit differently but it is very stable. I am used to Microsoft Word , Excel etc and I bought the MS Office for Mac package so that is OK. My interest, other than ME, is photography so Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop work seamlessly on the Mac. OK it is an expensive machine but I will judge the true cost when next it is time to change. As a "best of both worlds" position my wife has a Windows machine running Windows 8 . We each have an iPad and I have an iPod ! One nice little touch is that the iMac, iPad and iPod calendars are all synchronised so entering an appointment in one appears on all. Regards Norman
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