Understanding MHS Copyright exploitation rights
Jo | 20/05/2013 09:50:34 |
198 forum posts | It was a bit of a surprise to me over the weekend when I found one of my posts on this forum had been published in Model Engineer. Having re-read the copyright notice on this forum it is clear that the owners are claiming this right. It would have been nice to have been informed that it was going to happen, before it did. I will be keeping their copyright statement in mind for any future posts/threads I might choose to start. Jo
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Russell Eberhardt | 20/05/2013 11:24:43 |
![]() 2785 forum posts 87 photos | Wasn't there a time when they used to pay for any letters they published? ... or was that another magazine? Russell. |
Michael Gilligan | 20/05/2013 11:42:45 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | For anyone interested See Clause 3 of this MichaelG. |
Andrew Johnston | 20/05/2013 11:46:29 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Can't say it would worry me; not that I would imagine anyone would want to publish any of my posts in ME. Any post, or thread, on the forum is already in the public domain, and the forum has a much wider audience than ME, since it can be reached via search engines. Andrew |
Bazyle | 20/05/2013 12:06:45 |
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I was rather proud the one time decades ago I got a letter published. Pity the next issue a reply rather pulled my argument apart. |
Ady1 | 20/05/2013 12:15:04 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Been pretty much the situation since day one of the internet By posting on a site you give them the rights to it
On the flip side if you post something naughty and they don't delete it they become jointly and severally liable for the post in a court of law Varies from country to country, in places like Finland some people have shut their sites down because the legislation and interpretation is so strict
edit The bottom line here is likely to be if they reserve the right to "own" all posts and republish them, and thereby profit from them, then they are making a contract to be jointly and severally liable for all posts made on that forum Edited By Ady1 on 20/05/2013 12:33:06 |
Diane Carney | 20/05/2013 12:57:10 |
419 forum posts 11 photos | Jo, I have sent you a PM. The hope was, from the beginning, that publishing extracts from the forum would add interest to the magazine. The substance of the discussion is the only reason for choosing the text to print. It is completely irrelevant who is writing. We will never reveal the identity of a writer, hence the use of initials or short nicknames. We don't intend to publish personal opinions (other than 'how to' ) - just practical advice and ideas. In this way it is slightly different from Posbag, which is the place to express your opinions on all kinds of matters... and sign your name in full! Diane
Edited By Diane Carney on 20/05/2013 12:57:33 |
Russell Eberhardt | 21/05/2013 10:05:41 |
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Posted by Graham Meek on 21/05/2013 09:53:08:
I would have thought it would be only a common courtesy and good business practice to at least approach the "Originator" as regards the intention to publish. Agreed. Unfortunately "courtesy" seems to be a rather forgotten thing these days. Russell - in grumpy old man mode. |
John Stevenson | 21/05/2013 10:10:49 |
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Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 21/05/2013 10:05:41:
Russell - in grumpy old man mode
. . .Excuse me but I paid good money for that tee shirt |
Hopper | 21/05/2013 10:57:40 |
![]() 7881 forum posts 397 photos | It's the internet. It's out there, for all to see. And use. Plenty of newspapers do the same thing with quotes from the public comments on their websites. Rule No1 on the net is don't post anything you would not say in front of your mum, and don't post anything you don't want to be available to the public FOREVER. It's going to be real interesting when the first generation of Facebook teens reach middle age and their kids can look back through their FB timeline! |
Bazyle | 21/05/2013 11:24:40 |
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Not fair. |
Diane Carney | 21/05/2013 12:20:11 |
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Putting myself in the shoes of an anonymous contributor to a forum - any forum, not necessarily this one - it would not bother me in the least if my text was lifted from the forum and printed elsewhere. In fact I would be glad my thoughts were considered interesting. If there are half a dozen contributors to a thread it would be utterly impractical to contact each and every one of them, wait for them to respond, etc. etc. before printing the thread in the magazine. If you think it is necessary to do so then the whole idea is dead in the water. I am disheartened by some of the the posts above, especially at the intimation of discourtesy. I am glad now to see that some others see it as I do. If you would like to see 'From the Forum' stopped please let me know. Diane |
Andrew Johnston | 21/05/2013 15:53:02 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | I don't mind one way or the other; but the time any posts appear in ME I will have already seen it on the forum, so I don't read it in the magazine. Regards, Andrew |
Andrew Johnston | 21/05/2013 15:54:02 |
![]() 7061 forum posts 719 photos | Bother, double post deleted because my computer apparently stalled without posting, but it was telling porkies. Andrew Edited By Andrew Johnston on 21/05/2013 15:55:38 |
Diane Carney | 21/05/2013 16:42:23 |
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Thanks Andrew.
Diane |
Gray62 | 21/05/2013 18:04:54 |
1058 forum posts 16 photos | Forum post, printed in a magazine, billboard on the high street - who cares, it all helps to spread the word and enlighten. If the information is useful then why not publish it by whatever means are available. Forum users should read the T's & C's BEFORE agreeing to becoming a forum member - how many of us do NOT read the small print and then bitch about it afterwards? Get a grip!! CB |
Another JohnS | 21/05/2013 18:05:45 |
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Posted by Diane Carney on 21/05/2013 12:20:11:
... I am disheartened by some of the the posts above, especially at the intimation of discourtesy. I am glad now to see that some others see it as I do. If you would like to see 'From the Forum' stopped please let me know. Ignore those stuck in the "Generation Gap" and continue your welcome small but significant changes to Model Engineer. The world moves on, and us old codgers need to, too. Another JohnS. |
Nicholas Farr | 21/05/2013 20:58:54 |
![]() 3988 forum posts 1799 photos | Hi, well I can't see any problem with having posts printed in the magazine, after all any posts can be copied and printed by anyone. I personally have no problem with any posts that I have made and if it helps only one person with a problem or a query, then it's worth it. Is it not the main purpose of the Forum posts to help others without expecting any reward. Regards Nick. |
Rik Shaw | 21/05/2013 21:25:14 |
![]() 1494 forum posts 403 photos | Diane - If anything I had written on the forum was published in a magazine - any magazine - I would consider it a complement. Please do not be disheartened by readers whose criticisms sting - people do it all the while! And if you do feel unjustifiably rebuked in future then may I recommend good chilled Chardonnay and large glasses. NIL CARBORUNDUM. Rik |
Stub Mandrel | 21/05/2013 21:33:44 |
![]() 4318 forum posts 291 photos 1 articles | To be honest, I don't mind my posts being used, although I'll cringe if some of my attempts at humour get into the mag... Personally I think that some of the build/technique threads on here would make great articles, if tidied up by the original author. If I was Diane Carney or David Clarke, I'd be relying on the forums for 'talent spotting' Neil Hang on, wasn't the previous previous editor of ME a DC as well - is this a conspiracy? I think we should be told... |
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