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Circlip28/05/2010 14:00:53
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Given the fact we keep being reminded about copyright, what are MHSs views on plagerism??
 
  Don't know if that's the right spelling cos on this forum, there's no spull chuck and BEFORE anyone directs me to use Word/Waft or whatever to compose my bits, I want to use THIS forums box to do it so we don't overstep the boundaries. Column width that is, not code of conduct.
 
  I raise the question due to a series being published in the M/E and would like the "Managements" views.
 
  Regards  Ian
Gone Away28/05/2010 15:40:00
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Posted by Circlip on 28/05/2010 14:00:53:

 
   cos on this forum, there's no spull chuck
 
Strange .... when I post, I get spell-checked as I go along.
 
Of course it uses an American dictionary which is even stranger ... (or perhaps that's what you mean by no spell check )


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pcb196228/05/2010 16:00:11
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> Strange .... when I post, I get spell-checked as I go along.
 
Perhaps you're using Firefox which includes a spell checker. If that's the case, you want to go to Tool/Addons and install the British English dictionary and get rid of the default US one.
matt28/05/2010 16:37:10
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Posted by Circlip on 28/05/2010 14:00:53:
Given the fact we keep being reminded about copyright, what are MHSs views on plagerism??
 
  Don't know if that's the right spelling cos on this forum, there's no spull chuck and BEFORE anyone directs me to use Word/Waft or whatever to compose my bits, I want to use THIS forums box to do it so we don't overstep the boundaries. Column width that is, not code of conduct.
 
  I raise the question due to a series being published in the M/E and would like the "Managements" views.
 
  Regards  Ian
 
would this be a series which appears to be based on a thread posted on another forum recently regarding an engine rebuild? If so I was thinking it looked familiar too
 
matt

 

Circlip28/05/2010 16:44:28
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Yes Matt, it looks a bit like this:-
 
 
  I know for a fact that the originator in the above listing is NOT the signatory of the M/E artical.
 
   Wonder how many pieces of silver it has attracted???
 
  Regards  Ian.
JasonB28/05/2010 17:19:04
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Do you think they owner of the engine who can be seen in the video at the end of the thread looks a little like the ME author? Hope John (Bogs ) got a cut of the fee.
 
Jason
matt28/05/2010 17:52:51
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Posted by Circlip on 28/05/2010 16:44:28:
Yes Matt, it looks a bit like this:-
 
 
  I know for a fact that the originator in the above listing is NOT the signatory of the M/E artical.
 
   Wonder how many pieces of silver it has attracted???
 
  Regards  Ian.
 
Thats the post I was thinking off, couldnt remember if it was mad modder or hmem it was on though. iirc john rebuilt that engine as a paying job and documented it on the thread with the owners permission. Maybe part of deal was that owner got to publish the words and pics? although it was shortly after that thread that bogs started watermarking his pics I think.
 
matt

 

Circlip28/05/2010 18:23:05
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Strange that the "Author" seems to be describing it as if HE did the rebuild, don't see any reference to John???
 
  Regards  Ian
chris stephens28/05/2010 18:41:24
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Hi Guys,
As a great fan of Bogs' work and write-ups, I hope this "slur" on his  activities is sorted quickly.
While on the subject, perhaps his fan club could start a petition to persuade him to write a book detailing his ways of working.  I for one would buy a copy.
chriStephens
Circlip28/05/2010 19:37:12
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Read it properly Chris, nobody's slurring Boggy. The "Author" I'm reffering to is the one in the M/E.
 
  Regards  Ian.

Edited By Circlip on 28/05/2010 19:38:37

deere_x475guy28/05/2010 20:20:57
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I am curious how this will turn out.....
LADmachining28/05/2010 20:39:36
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I wonder if the thread will stay around long enough for any of us to find out....?
David Clark 128/05/2010 21:22:32
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Hi There
As far as I know the article is genuine.
I knew it was taken from the posts but believe the original author is aware of it being published. As far as I know, nothing wrong has been done or I would not have published it.
regards David
 
PS This thread will self destruct (or delete itself) on the stroke of midnight.
Bogstandard28/05/2010 21:29:00
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I was directed here by a model engineering friend, and I hope to clear up this matter once and for all, but also add something.
 
I was fully aware of the article well before it was published because the author of it had already asked for my permission to use my text and pictures in the Model Engineer magazine.
 
As a lot of you know, all I am interested in nowadays is helping people to get started on the road to making things with their own hands, and if my postings can be used for that effect, that is all the reward I expect.
 
If the article did generate a sum of money, then I would expect the article writer to submit it to a charity of his choice. That is his personal choice, not mine, I want no part of it, even though most of the text and pictures are of my making.
 
I don't know why I have a following, maybe it is because I try to explain even the simple things in laymans terms, rather than trying to baffle people with bullsh and one upmanship, which happens much too often nowadays, not just on websites, but in magazines as well, hence I subscribe to no magazines any more, and soon drop and leave websites when the holier than thou posters start to get their fingers in the pie.
 
But anyway enough of that, back to the matter in hand.
 
There is one thing that isn't related to the article, but still relating to the engine I did a top end refurbishment on.
 
It seems like the the article submitter is trying to sell a model boat with this engine in it. Maybe using this article and my words to assist in the sale. I gave no permission for that to be done, and I am actually very dismayed with his actions, especially seeing he has been pestering me for more than a year to finish off the refurbish, by doing the bottom end of the engine as well, as the engine certainly now needs it.
Unfortunately, as a lot of my fellow modellers know, this last year has been a very trying time for my family and myself , and only recently have I been able to get back into the shop, and I was looking forwards to asking him to return the engine for the needed refurb, and get it back into top class condition.
But after seeing it for sale on ebay, I want nothing more to do with it.
 
So I hope that this explanation puts things to rights.

Bogs
Stub Mandrel28/05/2010 21:46:29
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Seems a rather unfortunate turn of events to me.
 
If it's the article I'm think of I was slightly perplexed reading it as it seemed to switch between the first and third person .
 
Thanks bogs for your explanation; I hope you can put up with our  self -aggrindisement* to stay around for a bit
 
Neil
 
*hey I haven't got a spile chicken either!
 

chris stephens28/05/2010 21:48:42
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Hi David, 
Even if the original author gave consent, the article author should not give the impression that it was all his own work, this I find to be underhand and beneath the accepted standard of one of the world most respected model engineering magazines.
chriStephens
PS to your PS. what's this, more censorship? 
Bogstandard28/05/2010 22:09:08
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PS This thread will self destruct (or delete itself) on the stroke of midnight.
 
Just on another note, it is moderation like this that makes me leave sites as well.
 
There is only one thing worse than 'holier than thou's', and that is bad and overbearing moderation. If that is what it is like here, I don't think you would like my candid views of certain types of people that I have already mentioned.
 
It looks like it is a good job I only called in to put things straight.
 
Bogs
chris stephens28/05/2010 22:22:28
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Hi Bogs,
It is because of your straight forward views and great knowledge and experience that I feel you should write more and  in a form that is not deleted at the whim of the "powers that be" or a computer crash.
If your recent sad loss has taught us anything, it is that  if you don't pass on all that you have learnt in your lifetime, there comes a time when it is too late. Please think about writing a book.
 christephens
Versaboss28/05/2010 22:52:39
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An amazingly sassy story !!!

Bogstandard, I am fully on your site about what you wrote in your last post.

Greetings, and keep your more-than-bog standard!

(Just realizing that this post will disappear in 69 minutes... )

Hansrudolf



John Stevenson28/05/2010 22:55:17
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Posted by Versaboss on 28/05/2010 22:52:39:

(Just realizing that this post will disappear in 69 minutes... )

Hansrudolf


 


 That's nearly an hour...........

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