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Richard Still23/09/2009 19:42:11
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Does anyone have any experience of designing / building / using a motorised filing machine? I've not been able to track down any drawings but would like to have a go at making such a tool. There is one on the cover of M E Workshop this month. The main use would be in crossing out wheels for clock making.
JasonB23/09/2009 20:30:41
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Hemmingway do one that is powered by a lathe but you should be able to fit a separate motor
 
Jason
David Clark 123/09/2009 20:40:50
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Hi There
I beleive there is a plan in the myhobbystore range.
regards david
russell24/09/2009 00:09:55
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Funny you should ask, i've been thinking about one as well.
 
there were some plans published in 'popular mechanics', march 1957. Google books has it online: Filing Machine - a search on google books might find others.
 
regards
 
russell
 
 
Michael Ellis 124/09/2009 00:43:30
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Andy Lofquist of Metal Lathe Accessories (Google it) has a very nice free standing filing machine. When he wrote up several of his kits in ME 20 or more years ago, he had a contact person in England but I haven't seen any recent adverts.  When I spoke to him in June he had just sent several casting kits to the UK so that may be how it is handled these days.
As a satisfied customer I can say that his castings are first class.
 
ellis 
Peter Bell24/09/2009 08:48:31
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Made a filing machine from the  Metal Lathe Accessories kit and it works very well. Fairly easy to make, I have added some oil seals as a precauition. Good instructions and information from Andy Lofquist  about how to make the files needed. Also intended to use it for crossing out clock wheels but so far have only used it to form an internal square for a machine handle when it was really easy to make a good fit.
Circlip24/09/2009 11:52:42
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Have a bash with this link Richard, but you need to set aside about a month to quickly scan through.
 
 
  Regards  Ian.

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russell29/09/2009 00:42:46
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July 56 ME has part 2 of a filing machine, havent had a chance to look for part 1 yet, presumably either late june or early july.
 
regards
 
russell
Peter G. Shaw29/09/2009 14:17:37
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Hi,
 
MEW4, MEW 12 & WSP31 (Useful Workshop Tools/Stan Bray) all caontain details of filing machines.
 
Regards,
 
Peter G. Shaw

Lawrence Keating10/10/2009 02:01:44
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Martin Model and Pattern Making in the USA (http://www.martinmodel.com/) sell a set of castings and plans for a Die Filer (or Filing Machine). Click on the Machine Tools link and scroll down to the 3rd item. This is a smaller and some what simpler version of what is offered thru Metal Lathe Accessories. I inquired about the MLA version, but found out it is too big to machine on my Myford. Andy (the owner) said even a 9" Southbend will barely handle it.
 
They also sell castings for the Quorn and GHT's Universal Pillar Tool. I have the Die Filer and UPT castings on order right now. Hope to have them in hand next week.
Richard Still10/10/2009 17:30:37
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Thanks to all the helpful engineers how helped with this.
 
I think I'll have a go at Stan Bray's design - it doesn't need castings and will be easy to modify depending on what materials I have to hand.
 
Very best wishes to all of you.
 
Richard 
Charles14/12/2009 11:15:02
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The die filer on the cover OF MEW 155 was made by me.  It was made from a set of castings in aluminium which is the preferred material as one has been made locally in cast iron and the extra reciprocating weight had it leaping about like a kangaroo.  If anyone wants I can supply a crude sketch showing the essential dimensions and photos of the patterns used. 
David Clark 115/12/2009 10:33:07
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Hi There
Harold Hall has designed and built a die filing machine and artilceswith full drawings
will appear early in the New Year in MEW.
regards David
 
Howard Jones13/09/2010 16:39:56
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Charlie
ockleshaw's sketch wasnt crude. we both built from it successfully.
 if I was to build another die filing machine I'd build the one described in Australian Model Engineer sept-oct 2010 (the current magazine). the renford style machine is built from steel sections and is impressively robust. the entire description is in the one magazine.
(sorry to be a phillistine David but ME was late in the shops. you'd be impressed by the design though)

Axel14/09/2010 11:28:20
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Posted by Charles on 14/12/2009 11:15:02:
The die filer on the cover OF MEW 155 was made by me.  It was made from a set of castings in aluminium which is the preferred material as one has been made locally in cast iron and the extra reciprocating weight had it leaping about like a kangaroo.  If anyone wants I can supply a crude sketch showing the essential dimensions and photos of the patterns used. 

 Best design I´ve seen so far, it really lit my "tool lust" that one!

Howard Jones15/09/2010 18:47:30
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axel
this is the sketch charlie was referring to.
I'll visit him tomorrow and we'll post some photos of the two moulding patterns.
basically if you sit the two arms down on top of the body you have the casting shape of the main body. these arms are sawn off the casting and then machined.
the other casting is for the table.
they are a copy of a swiss filing machine in the early 1900's.
Howard
Axel15/09/2010 20:20:25
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Thanks thats great to see! I´ll make that one day for sure! I just met someone who can melt tons of metal at the time in his furnaces, so maybe I can make a scaled up model and have it as a sculpture in the garden...life is full of decisions!
Versaboss15/09/2010 22:59:57
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Circlip, would you please be so kind and shorten your Google link, so that we all can read the complete text of the postings?!?

Greetings, Hansrudolf

Charles16/09/2010 04:30:56
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Here are photos of the pattern

Here is the pattern split apart

 
Axel16/09/2010 06:34:14
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I would reccomend people to get a sample or look in the online version of the Brownell´s catalog, its an American gunsmith suplier; they have long narrown files with different cuts. Such files wouldl be ideal for making die filer files out of!
 
Also, yesterday I recieved a tool catalog from 1961, I collect such items. In it were a pic of a filing machine that had a 260mm filing disk (steel) with an edge of maybe 50mm depth, it had variable speed around 100-300 rpm. Would be a nice thing to have for big stuff!
 
And to digress terribly, the price of the top of the line Myford S7 was 3000SEK, today the same is 115,000SEK (Connoseur Long Bed). A calulator told me the equal value of 3000SEK is 31.598SEK today (£2885)

Edited By Axel on 16/09/2010 06:35:09

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