Michael Gilligan | 20/04/2021 08:48:08 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | This is worth a look, if you ever wondered about ‘the Brazil Nut effect‘ : **LINK** https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/04/cracking-the-case-new-study-sheds-more-light-on-the-brazil-nut-effect/ MichaelG. |
ega | 20/04/2021 10:08:41 |
2805 forum posts 219 photos | MichaelG: In my ignorance, I hadn't wondered; but I have added the phrase to my store of useful metaphors. |
Speedy Builder5 | 20/04/2021 10:59:20 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | Well, this is NEWS - stones always rise to the surface of my garden (not a Brazil nut in sight). It doesn't matter how many times I remove them, more appear each season. It could be my neighbour - but I doubt that. So next time I chat to some passing stranger, I can educate them and say that the stones follow the Brazil nut effect - that will impress them !! |
David Noble | 20/04/2021 12:22:15 |
![]() 402 forum posts 37 photos | Posted by ega on 20/04/2021 10:08:41:
MichaelG: In my ignorance, I hadn't wondered; but I have added the phrase to my store of useful metaphors. Nearly spilt my tea! David |
Michael Gilligan | 20/04/2021 12:26:48 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | The bit that impressed me was: That's why the University of Manchester team turned to an advanced imaging technique, called time-lapse X-ray computer tomography, to follow the motion of all those jostling nuts as their container was repeatedly agitated. What a great project: Getting to play with the toys ! MichaelG. |
John Olsen | 21/04/2021 03:41:33 |
1294 forum posts 108 photos 1 articles | The stones in the garden might be due to frost heave, assuming that you are somewhere that gets reasonably hard frosts. I think the alternate freezing and thawing takes the place of shaking the can with the nuts in it. So still the same effect, just a different root cause. In some cold places the stones that come to the surface can form reasonably regular patterns like hexagons. John |
John Paton 1 | 21/04/2021 12:52:24 |
![]() 327 forum posts 20 photos | Hmmm - I suspect that lumps of lead of identical size and shape to Brazil nuts would not rise to ten surface so maybe the study is incomplete? Other Brazil nut trivia is that they are quite highly radioactive - at least the shells are. |
Frances IoM | 21/04/2021 14:20:23 |
1395 forum posts 30 photos | once you have extracted the edible kernel the crushed shells can be used in a tumble action polisher for brass etc |
Neil Wyatt | 21/04/2021 14:40:38 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by John Paton 1 on 21/04/2021 12:52:24:
Hmmm - I suspect that lumps of lead of identical size and shape to Brazil nuts would not rise to ten surface so maybe the study is incomplete? Other Brazil nut trivia is that they are quite highly radioactive - at least the shells are. Don't they cover that: " Scientists know that the size and shape of the nuts determines how much friction is produced, and their density also plays a role. " |
Mick B1 | 21/04/2021 17:03:47 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | Posted by Frances IoM on 21/04/2021 14:20:23:
once you have extracted the edible kernel the crushed shells can be used in a tumble action polisher for brass etc I thought crushed walnut shells were preferred, but perhaps they're cheaper and the effect is similar... |
Mick B1 | 21/04/2021 20:10:48 |
2444 forum posts 139 photos | It's logical enough when you think about it - a bunch of smaller rounded things that get under a larger rounded thing where they can't always escape sideways are more likely to reach a stable configuration than a bunch of smaller rounded things that get atop a larger rounded thing. |
Steve Withnell | 21/04/2021 20:18:16 |
![]() 858 forum posts 215 photos | The best example of this I saw was at an factory that made adhesive tapes (masking tape, insulation tape). They had a new 5,000 Gallon storage tank installed in the factory yard and then re-laid tarmac over the top to re-instate the yard. The tank rose up like a whale having 'floated' in the sand ballast and burst through the tarmac like a surfacing whale. I wish I'd had a camera.
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Russell Eberhardt | 22/04/2021 09:39:57 |
![]() 2785 forum posts 87 photos | I've noticed the same effect with dried fruit mixture. The banana slices are always on top however many times you try to get the mixed. I think Steve's 5000 gallon tank was more to do with buoyancy rather than vibration. Russell
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Lee Rogers | 22/04/2021 10:37:12 |
![]() 203 forum posts | It's at this point that I ponder why I've spent over 40 years working my nuts off. Why wasn't I sat down in a university in California musing over the finer poins of nut behaviour? Pop out the odd funding request , ponder the nuts a bit, all the while keeping an eye on the surf reports, dirty work but I'd be dilligent. |
Michael Gilligan | 22/04/2021 17:05:08 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Lee Rogers on 22/04/2021 10:37:12:
It's at this point that I ponder why I've spent over 40 years working my nuts off. Why wasn't I sat down in a university in California ... . Oh heck ... have they moved the University of Manchester over to California ? MichaelG. |
Lee Rogers | 23/04/2021 09:26:14 |
![]() 203 forum posts | . Oh heck ... have they moved the University of Manchester over to California ? MichaelG. No but there are limits on where I'm prepared to do this ''work'' |
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