Tim Stevens | 27/04/2019 16:31:51 |
![]() 1779 forum posts 1 photos | I am rewinding a dynamo and I have located supplies of enamelled copper wire. What I also need is the cotton (?) tape to wrap the windings. It used to be called Empire tape but then, we used to have an Empire. So, what is it called now, and is cotton still the better material? Or glass fibre or what? Many thanks Tim |
Tim Stevens | 27/04/2019 16:43:30 |
![]() 1779 forum posts 1 photos | I should have said, of course - a UK supplier would be helpful, but other sources are not excluded, just slower, usually. And it is only the field windings I am renewing. Tim |
Phil Whitley | 27/04/2019 16:54:11 |
![]() 1533 forum posts 147 photos | I well know and have used the product of which you speak, Tim, but about 40 years ago, you could try them in Rotheram. http://www.empiretapes.com/Specialist-Tapes |
JasonB | 27/04/2019 16:58:14 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | The people that I got the enamelled wire from for that model electric engine I made last year do some insulating tapes, have a look down the left here, I ended up using old cotton sheet and shellac for the small amount I needed |
John Reese | 27/04/2019 17:07:43 |
![]() 1071 forum posts | I remember the term, varnished cambric, from the old days. I expect there aew newer and v=better materials.. |
Tim Stevens | 27/04/2019 17:08:03 |
![]() 1779 forum posts 1 photos | Hello Jason Yes, I have ordered wire and varnish, but they seem only to have self-adhesive glass-fibre tape, and I am not sure this will enable the regular tightening as the wrap is applied. And what is the effect of heat on the adhesive, I wonder? Thanks anyway. Phil - I have asked the Empire Tapes firm by email, as I cannot find the 'right stuff' in their listings. Perhaps the only users now are in China and India, and use local stuff? Thanks. Tim |
John Reese | 27/04/2019 17:08:31 |
![]() 1071 forum posts | Damn. I should proofread before I submit. |
Trevor Johnson 1 | 27/04/2019 17:08:59 |
10 forum posts | When I did my Auto Electrical Apprenticeship in the early sixties we used to overhaul starters, dynamo's etc. We used Egyptian Cotton Tape for the field coils, then varnished when covered. Companies like Durite still sell it as far as I know. Do a Google search for Egyptian Tape and I am sure you will find what you want. |
Robert Atkinson 2 | 27/04/2019 17:19:40 |
![]() 1891 forum posts 37 photos | The modern product would be glass tape with thermosetting adhesive. A good example is 3M's Scotch 69 https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/cloth-tapes/8855268/ or 12mm https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/cloth-tapes/8855255/ This can be used dry or varnished. Cotton is no longer acceptable due to flammability issues. Robert G8RPI. |
not done it yet | 27/04/2019 19:38:40 |
7517 forum posts 20 photos | Try yellow pages for local motor rewinders? They are usually helpful. |
Speedy Builder5 | 27/04/2019 20:35:36 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | Dress maker's cotton tape ? Various widths and weights - colours too. |
Neil Wyatt | 27/04/2019 20:50:28 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | The cotton tape is still used for guitar pickups. This is a supplier of cotton and paper tapes: Might give you some search terms to help your Google Fu. Neil Doh - here's their UK website... Edited By Neil Wyatt on 27/04/2019 20:52:13 |
Jeff Dayman | 27/04/2019 21:18:35 |
2356 forum posts 47 photos | 3M still make the traditional cambric tape if you want it. Link to supplier is below for that type and several others. Woven glass and non-woven glass tapes with high performance resins are also available from 3M if higher temps and fire resistance or very high dielectric strength is needed. |
Ian S C | 28/04/2019 11:23:56 |
![]() 7468 forum posts 230 photos | You might get cotton "ribbon gauze" at the chemist shop, it comes in different widths and weaves form fairly open to quite tight. If you go to the sewing shop I think you would be looking for "bias binding" tape, the stuff I have here is cotton, most of the fancy ribbons are not cotton. Linen tape is used in the aviation industry in recovering fabric covered aircraft. Ian S C |
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