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Push Button oiler ball Stuck!

Push Button oiler ball Stuck!

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Mark Eisen15/01/2017 08:05:20
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One of the Push Button oilers ball is stuck in my lathe.
I have pulled the brass housing out, but the ball is stuck about 25 mm in.
I tried getting a magnetised rod to try and pull it out, didn't work.
Is there any way to get it out with out pulling the carriage to bits.


The lathe is a Steelmaster SM-0920V 9 X 20 ,
 
 
 
PS How do I post a photo?

Edited By Mark Eisen on 15/01/2017 08:07:56

Brian H15/01/2017 08:54:55
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Thick grease or glue on the end of a thin rod or even a BBQ skewer?

Best of luck with it anyway.

Brian

Speedy Builder515/01/2017 09:07:29
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I don't know how big the hole is, but could you suck it out - Get a small plastic tube (Inside of an empty biro) and tape this up to your hoover pipe, then try to suck it out. The ball may be stainless and non magnetic ?
BobH

Thor 🇳🇴15/01/2017 09:13:05
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Hi Mark,

I agree with Brian, try with a bit of glue on a rod. To post photos, see this thread.

Thor

Brian Wood15/01/2017 10:02:34
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Mark,

​I'm afraid in my experience, once the ball has gone inside it will remain there. If it is a standard size, it probably is, run a self tap screw into it and pull the whole thing out with nail pincers and fit a new one in it's place.

Regards
Brian

Brian Wood15/01/2017 10:45:46
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Mark,
Ooops, sorry. I hadn't appreciated you had the body out already, although you say so clearly enough when looking back.

​Sticking anything to an oily ball is a challenge without adding the difficulty of going down inside a hole. Clean it as best you can with a plastic tube with bog paper up inside it, then rest a clean tube cut cleanly for a square end on top of the ball and run a little Loctite down inside and leave it to bond tube and ball together.

​Have a tea break and then pull with care and a prayer

Regards
Brian

Gordon W15/01/2017 10:56:52
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First find out where the little ball has gone- might be in a vunerable place.

peak415/01/2017 11:16:50
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Depends where it is, can you get to the other side of the orifice, even indirectly, with an air line.

If so, try blowing it out, with a rag to catch the ball; a) so you don't lose it, b) to avoid shooting next door's cat .

Michael Gilligan15/01/2017 11:43:02
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Posted by Brian Wood on 15/01/2017 10:45:46:


​Sticking anything to an oily ball is a challenge without adding the difficulty of going down inside a hole. Clean it as best you can with a plastic tube with bog paper up inside it, then rest a clean tube cut cleanly for a square end on top of the ball and run a little Loctite down inside and leave it to bond tube and ball together.

​Have a tea break and then pull with care and a prayer

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Brian,

Conceptually, that's a great idea, but [even as a Loctite enthusiast] ... I suspect that you might need to insert "engage the Infinite Improbability Drive" somewhere in that closing line. **LINK**

http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Improbability_Drive

... In all honesty, I think the vacuum pipe is more likely to succeed.

MichaelG.

mark costello 115/01/2017 17:43:52
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Vacuum and pressure. Make it irresistible.

Rik Shaw15/01/2017 18:51:44
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" run a self tap screw into it and pull the whole thing out with nail pincers"

Thanks for that Brian - I have a couple of stuck balls on my lathe so I'll use your method to remove them. They seem to be reasonably cheap on ebay so I'd better get some in.

Rik

daveb15/01/2017 18:57:46
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It's probably not worth spending too much time on a damaged one, they are available at modest cost in Metric and Imperial sizes from a number of model engineering suppliers.

Mark Eisen16/01/2017 09:45:24
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Sorry about being blurred trying to get a close up, but the is what it should look like.

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Mark Eisen16/01/2017 09:47:29
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Here is the stuck ball I think the silver/shiny bit on the L/H is the spring.

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Edited By Mark Eisen on 16/01/2017 10:09:21

Mark Eisen16/01/2017 09:49:58
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Old and new Push Button oiler.

I screwed a self tapper in to the old one and used a claw hammer to lever it out.

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Mark Eisen16/01/2017 09:53:14
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The next two photos are from the very high quality loose leaved chinglish manual that came with it.

PS I just worked out how to add more than one pic at a time to a post.embarrassed

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Edited By Mark Eisen on 16/01/2017 10:12:22

Mark Eisen16/01/2017 10:03:04
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I have bought 20 X 6 mm Push Button oilers for $4.43
and 20 X 8 mm for $4.44
1 X cost $3.95 here in Aust go figure?

Here is the link if any one needs it.

**LINK**

Mark Eisen24/01/2017 06:20:46
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Success at last.


Remove the shear pin on head stock end of the lead screw,
undo and remove lead screw bush block on tail stock end.
Loosen the two tension cup-head screws, undo the two big cup-head screws at the front of the carriage cones of easy as pie.

Note the bonus finger prints, someone with smaller fingers than me, quick scrub with kero wouldn't budge then.

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The two cup-head screws that hold the apron on.
I will get some new ones next time I go down the street.

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Mark Eisen24/01/2017 06:22:43
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Here is the culprit, some reason it had a double spring it was the one on the left I could see.

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Good as new.

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Thank you every one for all you help and advice.

David Taylor24/01/2017 22:05:25
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Thanks for the link! My lathe has the same problem. I'll get some as soon as the seller gets back.

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