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RICHARD GREEN 214/10/2016 20:01:27
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A while back I bought off ebay a "Rapid Original" QC tool post for my Boxford ME10 lathe, it came with one tool holder.

I thought it would be a nice project to make some more, I decided to make four more, here is a photographic record of how I did it,

 

The block as bought,

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I had some steel offcuts, 3" x 1 1/2"x 2" in stock, the tool holder I had was, 3" x 1 1/4" x 1 3/4", so I used the Elliott 14 M shaper to reduce the blocks to size.

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Then I had to machine the main part of large "T" into the back of the blocks, for this I used a 1" endmill in the TOS FA3A mill

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Next I had to machine the "T" of the T slot with a 1"Dia x 1/4" Woodruff cutter, Each side of the "T" was cut in one pass, , 0.145" deep, at 250 RPM and a table feed of 20mm a minute.

 

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Cutting the second side,

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Now to cut the "V" slots, to start I cut two slots 0.093" wide into the blocks 0.300" deep, x 2.437" apart centre to centre, this was to give the points of the "V" cutter an easier life, I used a 4" x 0.093" slitting saw in a Tom Senior M1 horizontal mill.

boxford qctp 003.jpg

 

Then I cut the "V" slots on the same machine using a 90 degree horizontal cutter,

boxford qctp 004.jpg

 

After a bit of tidying up, I then machined the large slot for the lathe tool to clamp into, using a 3/4" 3 flute slot drill,

boxford qctp 012.jpg

 

Opening out the slot to 0.850" wide x 0.550" deep

boxford qctp 014.jpg

 

Next I made the height adjusters from 7/8" Dia, steel, with a straight knurl, threaded 8mm,

boxford qctp 016.jpg

 

Here are the 4 adjusters completed,

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Here are the four tool holders ,assembled , with 6mm tool holding screws,

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And fitted to the Boxford lathe,boxford qctp 026.jpg

 

This was a nice engineering project, that will make the Boxford lathe a lot more pleasant to use.

I am quite a shaper fan, I think it would be fun to produce one of these tool holders entirely using a shaper, ( not drilling the holes of course ),

 

Richard.

 

 

Edited By RICHARD GREEN 2 on 14/10/2016 20:04:48

Vic14/10/2016 20:48:17
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Very nice job Richard. Nothing more satisfying making your own tooling. wink

Chris Evans 614/10/2016 20:54:49
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Gosh I could do with some of your kit, jobs like that are easier on a horizontal mill.

Fatgadgi14/10/2016 21:34:28
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Richard - thanks for posting the photos ... brilliant job. Really.

I've been thinking about having a bash at making them as well, but have not really come up with a method that I was happy with. Your way is great and it's the 90 deg horizontal cutter that's the clever bit for me - I only have vertical mills, so I never thought of that. But I could make an arbor and hold the cutter in the vertical mill and end up with the same result.

So I'd better back to the Fosse Way before it finishes .....

Cheers - Will

Steve Pavey14/10/2016 22:10:26
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Very nice - especially the straight knurl on the adjusters which, for some reason, always looks more professional to me.

I'd like to make some more toolholders myself, but It's not so straightforward with a Multifix..sad

Old Elan15/10/2016 09:41:50
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Planning a production run, Richard?

I could do with a few more...

wink

RICHARD GREEN 215/10/2016 11:36:03
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Posted by Old Elan on 15/10/2016 09:41:50:

Planning a production run, Richard?

I could do with a few more...

wink

Hello Old Elan.

No plans for a production run, It was the enjoyment of making my own.

Richard.

RICHARD GREEN 215/10/2016 11:37:30
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193 photos
Posted by Steve Pavey on 14/10/2016 22:10:26:

Very nice - especially the straight knurl on the adjusters which, for some reason, always looks more professional to me.

I'd like to make some more toolholders myself, but It's not so straightforward with a Multifix..sad

Hello Steve, I like the straight knurl as well.

Richard.

RICHARD GREEN 215/10/2016 11:43:40
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Posted by Will Bells on 14/10/2016 21:34:28:

Richard - thanks for posting the photos ... brilliant job. Really.

I've been thinking about having a bash at making them as well, but have not really come up with a method that I was happy with. Your way is great and it's the 90 deg horizontal cutter that's the clever bit for me - I only have vertical mills, so I never thought of that. But I could make an arbor and hold the cutter in the vertical mill and end up with the same result.

So I'd better back to the Fosse Way before it finishes .....

Cheers - Will

Hello Will, If you had a vertical mill that you could tilt the head over to 45 degrees, you could cut the 90 degree V's with an end mill.

I used the 90 degree horizontal milling cutter, as I found it in a box of cutters I have had in stock for years,

The only cutter I had to buy was the Woodruff cutter.

Richard.

sean logie28/10/2016 13:30:27
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Nice job on the QC tool holders .
MW28/10/2016 14:01:33
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Posted by Chris Evans 6 on 14/10/2016 20:54:49:

Gosh I could do with some of your kit, jobs like that are easier on a horizontal mill.

I can only agree with that, nice job, i could do with a few more holders myself and this write up certainly inspires confidence to have a go. yes

Michael W

RICHARD GREEN 228/10/2016 14:21:50
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Thank you all for your comments, I hope this has inspired some of you to have a go,

It's not that difficult, and you have something really practical that you can use at the end of it.

And you can make as many as you like, once you are set up for it.

If anyone makes any I would be interested to see them.

Richard.

Douglas Johnston28/10/2016 15:29:50
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It's wonderful to see people making their own holders, the only problem is that like women with shoes, the more holders you have the more you want. I had to cheat recently and bought some holders since I don't have enough beefy equipment to make them. The only real advantage in buying them is that they come hardened and nicely ground although they are not cheap.

Doug

Metalmuncher28/10/2016 18:00:44
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I made my own QCTH and about twenty tool holders for my S7. Saves a lot of time on a job, much better than the fourway tool post I had. Keith.

Neil Wyatt28/10/2016 21:07:14
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My home made QCTP conveniently uses 1" square material. Tempted to make some aluminium ones and see if they work.

Neil

thaiguzzi18/12/2016 04:23:06
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Richard,

my Dickson type holders virtually completely done on the shaper in my albums. Nice work by the way.

MalcB18/12/2016 07:09:04
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If I ever get or make enough room I am going to get a shaper. Its been a long long time since I used one. Taking out having to use it for production purposes must like people say make it a lot of fun and quite enjoyable.

Having to wear clogs though to stop chip penetration in your soles is another issue.

Speedy Builder518/12/2016 07:18:14
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RICHARD - Do you machine 'dry' as all the swarf looks dry. If not, what coolant do you use?
BobH

RICHARD GREEN 218/12/2016 15:06:38
329 forum posts
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Hello Thaiguzzi,

Thanks for the comment, I've looked at your album and you have some lovely pictures of making your tool holders on the shaper.................Very nice,

Hello Speedy,

I usually machine dry if I can, except for screwcutting, then I use threadcutting oil stuff that I brush on as required,

The two milling machines that I used to make the toolholders both have coolant pumps but neither is connected yet, ( a job for another day ).

I find that using flood coolant only seems to make a mess, and gets in everywhere, also some of the older types of soluble cutting fluid were not that healthy to use, I've got some Rocol stuff now , if I do need any and that has no known hazards,

Richard.

mechman4818/12/2016 19:17:35
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Nice work Richard, & nicely presented.

George.

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