indexing
Farmer Dave | 29/10/2015 19:06:29 |
33 forum posts 7 photos | Hello all I'm needing a wee bit of help setting up my rotary table,need to cut 125 divisions. my table turns 90 degrees per turn of the crank , how do I calculate it and what index plate should I use. My chart only goes to 100 divisions . Thanks for your help. Farmer Dave |
Phil P | 29/10/2015 19:52:50 |
851 forum posts 206 photos | Hi A lot will depend on what indexing plates you have available, ideally you want one with 25 holes. 90/125 =18/25, so each division works out at 18 holes on a 25 plate. Phil |
David Clark 1 | 29/10/2015 20:01:16 |
![]() 3357 forum posts 112 photos 10 articles | 90 degrees per turn of the crank sounds a lot. Normal dividing heads are usually 40 to 1 giving a 9 degree movement or or ten turns for 90 degrees.
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Phil P | 29/10/2015 20:01:40 |
851 forum posts 206 photos | Just looked at the chart for my 90:1 Hofmann rotary table and there is no 25 hole circle plate with it. So you might need to make that first. I am assuming you will have a 20 hole circle available as I do. 90/25 = 18/5 = 36/10 = 72/20 which gives 3 full turns and 12 holes on the 20 circle. Then use that plate to do your 125 divisions as above. Phil |
JasonB | 29/10/2015 20:04:12 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Posted by David Clark 1 on 29/10/2015 20:01:16:
90 degrees per turn of the crank sounds a lot. Normal dividing heads are usually 40 to 1 giving a 9 degree movement or or ten turns for 90 degrees.
90:1 which is quite common on rotary tables 4deg per turn Edited By JasonB on 29/10/2015 20:04:34 |
Neil Wyatt | 29/10/2015 20:10:20 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Sounds wrong, I suspect 90 is a typo and the OP means 9 degrees per turn (40:1 ratio). Which gives (25*40)=1000 holes per rotation 1000/125=8 holes =per division Or with a 50-hole plate, 16 holes per division. Neil |
Ian P | 29/10/2015 20:14:41 |
![]() 2747 forum posts 123 photos | Jason its not 4 degrees per turn but 4 turns for 360 degrees. Unusual to find rotary table or dividing head with 4:1 gears (well 1:4 really). I feel a misunderstanding might be afoot here.
Ian P |
JasonB | 29/10/2015 20:18:50 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Its a rotary table many of which run a 90:1 gear which gives 4 degrees per turn. 40:1 - 9deg per turn is more commonly found on a dividing head but the OP is asking about a rotary table. I've never seen a rotary table with 40:1 The OPs typo is that he put 90deg/turn not 90:1 Edited By JasonB on 29/10/2015 20:20:10 |
David Clark 1 | 29/10/2015 20:31:39 |
![]() 3357 forum posts 112 photos 10 articles | There are lots of online calculators online. Need to download them though. Don't work on my iPad. |
Phil P | 29/10/2015 20:36:53 |
851 forum posts 206 photos | If I knew how to add a spreadsheet to this page, I would show you how to work out divisions available using a system of factors. Phil |
Farmer Dave | 29/10/2015 21:08:26 |
33 forum posts 7 photos | Hi Guys Sorry for the confusion/mistake on my part ,my table is indeed 90:1 gearing. thanks for all the replies. |
Michael Gilligan | 29/10/2015 21:27:03 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | 25 hole plate Index every 18 holes ... I think. MichaelG. |
Phil P | 29/10/2015 21:58:44 |
851 forum posts 206 photos | What if he doesn't have a 25 hole plate though ? Phil |
Michael Gilligan | 29/10/2015 22:24:15 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Phil P on 29/10/2015 21:58:44:
What if he doesn't have a 25 hole plate though ? Phil . Make one or improvise MichaelG. |
Phil P | 29/10/2015 23:13:47 |
851 forum posts 206 photos | I'm just having a light hearted dig really, did you see my original posts at the top of the page. Phil |
John Stevenson | 29/10/2015 23:41:56 |
![]() 5068 forum posts 3 photos | No 25 hole plate is a glaring error on the B&S style plates. Once done everyone copied them and this was at a time when 125 and 250 division were ripe on inperial hand wheels.
Myford list doing a 125 division with their dividing head and to use 12/25 but they don't list a 25 hole on any of the 4 plates.
When we make the Myford plates No's 1 and 2 are direct copies but No. 3 has 127 holes extra and No. 4 has 50 holes extra. Our B&S style plates have 25, 63 and 127 holes extra, one on each of the 3 plates. |
Martin W | 30/10/2015 00:54:07 |
940 forum posts 30 photos | Hi If my calculations are right then 125 divisions can be obtained as follows:-
For a 40:1 table then an index plate with either 15 or 20 holes can be used 15 hole plate Index at 24 holes or 1 complete rev plus 9 holes 20 hole plate Index at 32 holes or 1 complete rev plus 12 holes.
For a 90:1 table the same index plates can be used 15 hole plate Index at 54 holes or 3 complete revs plus 9 holes 20 hole plate Index at 72 holes or 3 complete revs plus 12 holes
The divisions will not be cut/marked sequentially but after 125 sequences the full set should be cut/marked. Cheers Martin
Edited By Martin W on 30/10/2015 01:00:03 Edited By Martin W on 30/10/2015 01:01:02 |
Michael Gilligan | 30/10/2015 06:37:38 |
![]() 23121 forum posts 1360 photos | Posted by Phil P on 29/10/2015 23:13:47:
I'm just having a light hearted dig really, did you see my original posts at the top of the page. Phil . I must have seen but not Noticed ... I had pretty much dismissed everything written in answer to the original [wrong] question as being idle speculation. You were obviously correct, and may be psychic. MichaelG.
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JasonB | 30/10/2015 07:23:52 |
![]() 25215 forum posts 3105 photos 1 articles | Posted by Martin W on 30/10/2015 00:54:07:
For a 90:1 table the same index plates can be used 15 hole plate Index at 54 holes or 3 complete revs plus 9 holes 20 hole plate Index at 72 holes or 3 complete revs plus 12 holes
The divisions will not be cut/marked sequentially but after 125 sequences the full set should be cut/marked.
Martin, on the charts 72 holes on a 20 plate is for cutting 25 divisions, surely if you keep going round the same all you are doing is recutting the same 25 divisions |
Martin W | 30/10/2015 09:29:15 |
940 forum posts 30 photos | Jason Just checked and you are correct and the error could apply to all the values I came up with. Evidently posting too late at night and not thoroughly checking my calculations Cheers Martin |
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