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Hopper05/07/2018 10:51:35
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Posted by Zebethyal on 05/07/2018 10:18:52:...

.... Whatever happened to self deprecation, listing everyone else first and placing yourself last....

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Nick Clarke 305/07/2018 12:05:30
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Ar you getting an irritable old git?

I hope so but I have been waiting for mine for weeks. I have tried phoning and only got that awful music - and if it is not some awful stuff why to they insist on ruining the Brandenburg concertos by using them for such an inane purpose - and if you do get through to a real person they only take you through a script on their computer - if I wanted that all they need to do is to put it on the internet as I have several computers of my own that would do the job jut as well and while my day has already been spoiled at least it would not involve another person - and talking of other people have you noticed that if you have an issue with someone on a phone support desk that they can never let you speak to a manager - in my day if there was a problem in a shop you just asked for the manager and someone would come down to sort out your problem for you - although as the issue seems to be 'the system' there may not be a solution and when did we start 'the system' it seems to be an inflexible barrier to customer service - service!! I ask you when our first colour TV arrived two guys carried it in and they set it up an checked you knew how to operate it - nowadays you give yourselves a hernia lifting a huge box into the back of your own car and then lifting it out again before having to set it all up yourself and if it does not work you have to take it back to the shop and repeat after spending precious hours out of your life on a customer support line that offers no support. And breathe!

I hope you get your irritable old git soon - I am certain I am not one yet!

Keep smiling!!

Michael Gilligan05/07/2018 12:17:00
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Posted by Zebethyal on 05/07/2018 10:18:52:

There is a current Green Flag advert being broadcast on the radio that talks about "bucket fulls" of something as opposed to "buckets full", I cringe every time I hear it. I appreciate that not everyone is great at pluralising, but if something is going to be broadcast nationally, at least have the script checked first.

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For the sake of gratuitous rhetoric, may I suggest:

One bucket, used repeatedly for several loads >> "bucket fulls"

Several buckets; each used for one load >> "buckets full"

devil MichaelG.

Richard S205/07/2018 12:35:23
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With reference to Mike's observation above, I expect a great bastion of correctness, namely the BBC, to be as near perfect as possible. No excuse for lack of 'Proof Reading' before publication. What seems to irritate me more is that their Correspondents and Political Editors seem unable to determine the correct use of 'Fewer'; and 'Less'.

Professional Websites of major companies have spelling mistakes. Always tempting to inform them of errors.

I recall that episode of 'Open All Hours' where Arkwright spelt 'Special' with an 'O' purely to attract some gullible individual into his Shop, so there are less irritating examples of errors and can even raise a chuckle.

Bazyle05/07/2018 13:27:44
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Another popular error is mixing 'procrastinate' and 'prevaricate' which seems to defeat a large number of members of Parliament.

Cornish Jack05/07/2018 14:21:38
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Michael - perhaps not. Your suggestion would require full to be a noun, not the adjective which it is. The normal term, I believe, is bucketful (one word, single 'l'

So many irritations, particularly, nowadays, with broadcasters and tautology - "*o'clock AM this morning", and the Weather Forecasters "Temperatures dropping down" as distinct from dropping up, perhaps?

Grumpy old git-ness is an honorable estate, say I!

rgds

Bill

Michael Gilligan05/07/2018 16:26:45
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Posted by Cornish Jack on 05/07/2018 14:21:38:

Michael - perhaps not. Your suggestion would require full to be a noun, not the adjective which it is. The normal term, I believe, is bucketful (one word, single 'l'

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In my defence, Bill ... I was trying to rationalise for Zebethyal, and therefore used the given spelling.

MichaelG.

Robin05/07/2018 16:39:20
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I think these people who cannot take a bit of stick over their dismal failure to spell, punctuate, use good grammar etcetera, should try being an irritable old git for a few days and see where that gets them. sarcastic 2

Nick Clarke 305/07/2018 17:13:08
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Robin quite agree - it takes effort to be a truly irritable old git!

Neil Wyatt05/07/2018 17:25:38
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Posted by Mike Poole on 05/07/2018 10:27:38:

The person typing the BBC news ticker used loose instead of lose, it wasn't there very long though. I wonder what the people who make this mistake type when they need loose?

Mike

Having seen the subtitles in our chemist (they keep the sound off) I suspect it's gone from manual typing to machine. It use to self coirrect, but now it makes fewer mistakes but stranger ones...

Neil

Neil Wyatt05/07/2018 17:30:48
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 05/07/2018 12:17:00:
Posted by Zebethyal on 05/07/2018 10:18:52:

There is a current Green Flag advert being broadcast on the radio that talks about "bucket fulls" of something as opposed to "buckets full", I cringe every time I hear it. I appreciate that not everyone is great at pluralising, but if something is going to be broadcast nationally, at least have the script checked first.

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For the sake of gratuitous rhetoric, may I suggest:

One bucket, used repeatedly for several loads >> "bucket fulls"

Several buckets; each used for one load >> "buckets full"

devil MichaelG.

I think it was the OED that decreed 'spoonsful' and 'spoonfuls' have equal validity when the spoons are imaginary or even metaphorical. So when lots of rain comes down it can be either bucketfuls or buckets full.

Howard Lewis05/07/2018 17:35:19
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We, all, obviously, find it too hot to go into the workshop!

Only work of late has been curing leaks on the garden hose, and preventing the feed hose from unscrewing itself from the input connection, despite the O ring on the Hoselock connection. Tonight will show if Loctite will make SWMBO happy!

No wonder I am so grumpy; dog days and all that!

Howard

Daniel06/07/2018 08:37:04
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 03/07/2018 17:09:29:
Posted by Daniel on 03/07/2018 16:07:11:

I've just asked Google what a split infinitive might be (malicious or otherwise), and had to give up.

I couldn't even understand their defintion.

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This one is pretty good, Daniel **LINK**

http://www.bristol.ac.uk/arts/exercises/grammar/grammar_tutorial/page_28.htm

It includes some reasonable examples.

MichaelG.

 

Many thank's for the link Michael. That really does help. (that does really help smile d)

My apologies for the delayed response, but I had an unplanned trip to hospital. frown

 

Edited By Daniel on 06/07/2018 08:38:57

Danny M2Z06/07/2018 09:07:24
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 05/07/2018 17:25:38:

Having seen the subtitles in our chemist (they keep the sound off) I suspect it's gone from manual typing to machine. It use to self coirrect, but now it makes fewer mistakes but stranger ones...

Neil

Neil, let the pot call the kettle black but I often notice the odd 'typo' in MEW. I suspect that predictive spell checkers have much to answer for until they reach the stage where the context is analysed and the correct word substituted.

Not a complaint, just an observation from an understanding old git.

* Danny M *

Swarf Maker06/07/2018 09:21:30
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I think that it is about time that this discussion moved on to an erudite analysis of the use of "git" in the context of this thread.

Michael Gilligan06/07/2018 09:26:56
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Posted by Swarf Maker on 06/07/2018 09:21:30:

I think that it is about time that this discussion moved on to an erudite analysis of the use of "git" in the context of this thread.

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Here's a 'benchmark' reference: **LINK**

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/git

MichaelG.

Brian G06/07/2018 10:03:32
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Isn't an "old Git" one from before Microsoft bought GitHub?

I'll get my coat.

Brian

SillyOldDuffer06/07/2018 10:14:59
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Posted by Richard S2 on 05/07/2018 12:35:23:

With reference to Mike's observation above, I expect a great bastion of correctness, namely the BBC, to be as near perfect as possible. No excuse for lack of 'Proof Reading' before publication. What seems to irritate me more is that their Correspondents and Political Editors seem unable to determine the correct use of 'Fewer'; and 'Less'.

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Apologies to Richard for picking on his post as the example, there are many others.

Richard claims the BBC to be a 'a great bastion of correctness' highlighting that there are more serious sins than grammar mistakes. For example:

  • Errors of fact. The BBC does not claim to be a bastion of correctness, let alone a great one.
  • Opinion disguised as fact, as in 'No excuse for lack of 'Proof Reading' before publication.' In practice there are many excuses for lack of proof reading, and - in fact - there is no requirement for a publication to be proof read at all!

At this point the Printer's Devil whispers in my ear. The worst sin is to be a bore and of that wickedness Richard is innocent. I too believe that, as the end justifies the means, it's legitimate to sex up my writing with exaggerations and attention grabbing curlicues.

Or possibly the hot weather has driven me to a Hyperbolism.

Dave

 

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 06/07/2018 10:17:30

Andrew Johnston06/07/2018 10:22:11
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 06/07/2018 10:14:59:

Or possibly the hot weather has driven me to a Hyperbolism.

Probably not, it's just that the sunny weather has given you a tanh.

Andrew

Mick B106/07/2018 11:24:57
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Posted by Andrew Johnston on 06/07/2018 10:22:11:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 06/07/2018 10:14:59:

Or possibly the hot weather has driven me to a Hyperbolism.

Probably not, it's just that the sunny weather has given you a tanh.

Andrew

No, it's certainly a sinh.

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