Windows 10 forced upgrade

The answer to Windows Live Mail I have found is to move to Mozilla Thunderbird which will not rely on any Microsoft product and will will work across all platforms.

All your history of email and contacts can be shifted into Thunderbird while Microsoft Live mail is still on your PC and when you are happy it all works correctly move across to Thunderbird.

As far as I am aware (but to be honest I have never read an MS licence in detail) one doesn't actually purchase the software, but are only paying for a licence to use the software. So somewhere in the hundreds of lines of legal gobbledygook there is probably some limitation on the length of time that the licence is valid for.

Clive

Edited By clivel on 14/06/2016 00:12:24

I am running 8.1. I downloaded Never10 about three weeks ago and have not had a Windows 10 pop up since.

Bill

Hi, I think you will find that these days the licence is valid for the life of the computer unless you buy one that does not come as a package.

Regards Nick.

It has been stated in the press that Microsoft has now bought out Linkdin for 25 million, I wonder what plans they have for that .

Very insidious indeed.

Clive

W10 running here. I have lost one minor app.

Main issue is that the quick access to apps using the charm bar has gone and I have to use that stupid, crowded start menu all over again. Instead of a big window of organised programs with all their sub-programs, I have to scroll through the main applications in identikit orange boxes.

Another example of where the new idea was better but the innate conservatism of users wins...

Well let's see how it goes.

Neil

Does that quote surprise anybody ? I'd be surprised if it does. There was a court case about "it" years ago as they have been making things difficult for the competition right from the point when windows was in wide spread use. And before that really. From memory 2 of the things that came as a result of the case was and end to the method used to ensure all new pc's had windows installed automatically which I suspect didn't achieve anything at all and windows itself providing a dual boot facility.

What they have always done with competitors application software is to change the OS to make life difficult for them. While they have a dominant user base this is a very easy thing to do. Fortunately due to the wide spread use of things other than windows pc's on the web they should find it difficult to get the world to change the way emails work but it may happen. There aim has always been to supply all of the software used on all machines. This effectively just leaves fringe areas for the competition. Sometimes fringe interests grow larger user bases so they get into that as well eg

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They have even tried to do something about the embedded market which is huge. For free at one point but it looks like they charge for it now.

Like I said earlier there is no point bleating about it. All people can do is vote with their feet and many don't. This can mean just using some none MS things on their machines rather than the one they supply. However some strange things happen when these get into wide spread use. I'm surprised that there aren't any conspiracy theories about but suspect few notice. Me well I have always suspected there are some odd USA based cosy relationships about but wonder if this is me being paranoid.

John

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Edited By Ajohnw on 14/06/2016 10:25:16

That's 26 billion Clive!

Russell.

Good one Russel, I still cannot see what Linkdin can do for them as it lost a lot of money last year. Unless they will flood W10 with lots of CV's of people.

They also bought Skype some time back.

Clive

Edited By Clive Hartland on 14/06/2016 11:24:18

Linked in is part of their data gathering strategy. The future is in analysing fuzzy data and linked in gives them access to lots of information on business.

Where the law is weak is in not automatically preventing companies buying another one and linking their two datasets.

Neil

All of this thread is mostly concerned with a problem Neil just mentioned that has much wider scope. What I am about to say isn't political but would soon become so if discussed.

It's an issue with free markets. Eventually a few or one company dominates what ever the market is and once that happens they effectively aren't free any more as it can be impossible for others to compete. The companies that eventually dominate are usually the ones in the country with the largest population that can actually buy what ever it is. This then allows them to buy up others often in other countries that have significant markets. The USA in many respects does have the largest buying population or at least has had for the longest time. That's why marketing wise it's seen as the holy of holies by just about every company on the planet.

John

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Cachinked in.

I am not on Linked in a family member is, this person constantly gets offered links to other members, There is some connection to email, if you allow it, it scans your contacts list, as it does with other contact lists it knows about. every time this person contacts a new supplier even once, or a friend, the process of offering these people up is repeated.

It is hierarchical..... There is a ranking of members It sends out lists and images that are sized according to importance, If you know someone that is say an Industry leader the image is double the size of a member of lesser perceived or ranked importance.

I guess soon it will be offering soylent green
HAL and big brother have joined forces. The screen is in almost every room and we are being watched.

Regards
John

The sooner MaidSafe is released, the better.

I'll just hijack this thread as someone may know what to do. I had to up grade to Windows 10 some eight months ago as no one would repair my old unit which ran Vista, so I had to buy a new unit. I've had loads of glitches with emails, copying files and photos etc, but the main cause for concern is I now cannot connect any devices to the computer. It started with my Touch iPod which won't synct to the music library. Apple support said I would have to switch off my AVG security software. When I told them I wasn't too happy about doing that they couldn't help me with the problem. Now I can't connect my Cannon Sure shot to the computer. Windows support, via a chat line, told me to input my six digit PIN so they could access the unit, but as I don't have a six digit PIN that's another blind alley. All external devices worked okay until about five weeks ago. Does this call for a £50.0 ph house call from an IT engineer?

Thanks. Mick.

Mick

Are all your drivers up to date ? If not then there can be problems running things like printers and some programs. There are several 'Driver Updating Packages' out there for free though you will need to be careful when installing as some may contain unwanted software additions etc.

Martin

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Apparently ... Cortana is your "personal assistant" **LINK**

Right down to the level where it "tells jokes"

The mind boggles: but remember this was the firm that gave us that silly dog, sniffing around when you did a Search ...

MichaelG.

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P.S. ... I know ... Apple's Siri is awful too http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/136238-siri-vs-cortana-which-is-the-funniest-assistant ... But I suppose this abuse of technology is what mankind desrves. 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 14/06/2016 19:58:12

Snaildriver is a free package but it takes some time to go through the PC and download all that is needed, it's a onetime go.

Clive

It's Apple and Siri who pioneered the wiseacre personal assistant.

Neil

Interesting piece about the 'Linked In' acquisition, in the New Yorker:

**LINK**

MichaelG.