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Neil Wyatt17/11/2016 21:38:46
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Posted by JA on 17/11/2016 17:48:11:

The Napier Lion had a strange crankshaft main bearing arrangement that I have never seen used anywhere else. The crankshaft was one piece and crowded roller bearings were used. The bearings were held in place on the crankshaft by split sleeves (bushes).

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JA

Not that new, when Stephen Wessel showed me his engine at MEX (ENV of 1910 - under construction) he pointed out exactly the same way of keeping the bearings in place

Neil

JA17/11/2016 22:41:47
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 17/11/2016 21:38:46:
Posted by JA on 17/11/2016 17:48:11:

The Napier Lion had a strange crankshaft main bearing arrangement that I have never seen used anywhere else. The crankshaft was one piece and crowded roller bearings were used. The bearings were held in place on the crankshaft by split sleeves (bushes).

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JA

Not that new, when Stephen Wessel showed me his engine at MEX (ENV of 1910 - under construction) he pointed out exactly the same way of keeping the bearings in place

Neil

Then I guess that Napier could have used such an arrangement on the early, pre1906, cars.

JA

pgk pgk20/11/2016 11:50:38
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I was just reading the first post in this thread where the OP sat in a sunderland. It triggered a memory from way back when i was 4 or 5 yrs old and I'm sure my Dad said that the round bits I was playing with to make a 'bicycle' were sunderland porthole cut-outs he'd salvaged from the base. It would have been around the time he got posted to singapore ??? 1953??

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Cornish Jack20/11/2016 12:28:06
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Being aircraft pedantic (pedantry is VERY fashionable on the forum!!cheeky), I believe that sunderland may be a place somewhere North of the Watford Gap but the Sunderland flying boat (Sunderboat to the initiated) requires a capital 'S'. Crews needed additional skills in the culinary arts as well as seamanship!! The 'opposition' treated it with some respect, giving it the nickname 'Flying Porcupine' because of its armament. I had Service friends who had crewed them and loved it but managed to avoid them for the short period they were in service when I joined.

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John Olsen20/11/2016 21:44:56
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Actually if we re going to be pedantic, wouldn't a place name also normally receive a capital letter too?

There was at one time a boat in Auckland made out of a Sunderland wing float.

John

Michael Gilligan20/11/2016 22:09:21
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Posted by John Olsen on 20/11/2016 21:44:56:

Actually if we re going to be pedantic, wouldn't a place name also normally receive a capital letter too?

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Edit: on second thoughts ... Maybe deduct one star for tautology.

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Edited By Michael Gilligan on 20/11/2016 22:12:15

JA20/11/2016 23:01:20
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To be pedantic all proper nouns, that is names, should start with a capital letter. Sunderland, the place the aeroplane or anything else should do so. I believe that this should apply to the names of element and perhaps metals such as brass.

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Cornish Jack20/11/2016 23:20:21
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Baited and cast and ... strike!!cheekywink

rgds

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Ian S C21/11/2016 10:10:03
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in 1964 when I joined the Air Force I wanted to be a Flight Engineer, inspired by the Mk 5 Sunderlands of the RNZAF, these were just about to be phased out and replace with Orion maritime reconnaiance aircraft. Still got the Orions, and will have them for the next ten or a dozen years.

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Clive Hartland21/11/2016 11:21:37
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I live in the Medway towns which includes Rochester, Chatham and Gillingham, During the war Sunderlands were made in Rochester by Shorts and the Hard is still there. The bits were fabricated in tunnels in the chalk cliff on the East side and the planes launched from the hard standing. After the war a single Shorts Sunderland was moored in the Medway above Rochester bridge for some years. I did onetime see some maintenance on it when engines were run. When I joined the army at 14 and came back a few years later it was gone.

Clive

PS. of course it was also made in Belfast where Shorts were also established

Edited By Clive Hartland on 21/11/2016 11:22:15

mgnbuk21/11/2016 11:46:02
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PS. of course it was also made in Belfast where Shorts were also established

And also on Lake Windemere

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Muzzer26/11/2016 17:50:32
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I've only got a vague understanding of what I'm looking at here but when browsing in the local charity shops this afternoon I spotted a group of aircraft manuals. Leafing through them, there are line drawings of the innards of instruments etc. Clearly for training purposes. One was titled something like "the use of water rescue equipment", for those unlucky enough to have ditched in the soup.

If anyone is sufficiently interested I could retrieve them. Given that this is a charity shop, they wouldn't be expensive.

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Anyone recognise them?

Neil Wyatt26/11/2016 18:38:44
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There used to be a Sunderland 'gate guardian' in Pembroke Dock when I was a lad.

Neil

Cornish Jack26/11/2016 19:05:24
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Muzzer - you could try flagging that up on the Spotters forum on PPrune (Professional Pilots' Rumour Network) www.pprune.org. Might well be some interest!

rgds

Bill

Michael Gilligan11/12/2016 15:17:41
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Catching-up on yesterday's T.V. ...

I've just watched 'Click' [which should be available on the BBC iPlayer]

Very interesting snippet about BAE Systems' "autonomous" test aircraft

Jetstream: Reg. G-BWWW

MichaelG.

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Edit: https://planefinder.net/data/aircraft/G-BWWW may be of interet

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 11/12/2016 15:21:36

Bob Brown 111/12/2016 16:24:02
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I remember passing this every day on my way to school, long since gone but not forgotten. 44l-1.jpg

Muzzer11/12/2016 16:38:39
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That Land Rover seems to have a rather unusual construction, assuming that's what it is. Not like any I've seen before. Possibly a hand made one-off body?

Michael Gilligan11/12/2016 16:58:54
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Posted by Muzzer on 11/12/2016 16:38:39:

That Land Rover seems to have a rather unusual construction, assuming that's what it is. Not like any I've seen before. Possibly a hand made one-off body?

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That, Sir, would be a Shooting Brake

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Ian S C12/12/2016 10:40:44
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Dads Bradford had a similar body.

Ian S C

Clive Hartland12/12/2016 10:46:01
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Bob, did you see the Saunders Roe Princess fly, I did. It flew over my army camp near farnborough, also saw the Brabazon. plus many experimental type planes. This was in the early fifties from 1952 on.

Clive

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