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Cornish Jack | 07/05/2018 17:20:41 |
1228 forum posts 172 photos | For those who might be interested, I'm about to put a part built Worden and a Stent (from memory, complete) in the sale ads. rgds Bill |
Douglas Johnston | 07/05/2018 17:57:54 |
![]() 814 forum posts 36 photos | Posted by Neil Wyatt on 07/05/2018 15:09:42:
In case Douglas is right I have disabled the link in his post. Douglas - I would suggest scanning sooner rather than later... Neil
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Ian Welford | 09/05/2018 22:48:29 |
300 forum posts | I have a complete set of Quorn Mk2 castings, motor etc and the book. Partly machined by my uncle who was a very exacting engineer, sadly now deceased. I will be taking them to Doncaster if anyone's interested. I've got a Clarkson already, so rather than let them sit under the bench someone might fancy a go.
Regards Ian |
Ian Welford | 10/05/2018 17:38:40 |
300 forum posts | They’ve gone ! |
HughE | 11/02/2019 09:10:13 |
122 forum posts | Are Quorn castings available from a UK supplier. Neil you mentioned a few years ago MES were going to hand over the patterns etc to another well know supplier, did this happen? Hugh Edited By HughE on 11/02/2019 09:12:36 |
John Haine | 11/02/2019 11:37:30 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | IMHO, the Quorn is over-rated. It was designed to grind a wide range of cutters including some very tiny ones that Prof Chaddock needed for one of his engine projects. A challenging project but if what you want to do is re-grind cutters and get on with your main projects, then the Eccentric Engineering Acute or the Worden from Hemingway do the job. I built one of the first in a couple of weeks, there's a build thread on this site about it. BTW I also have a Quorn, inherited from my dad, it took him a couple of his retirement years to make and then he hardly ever used it. |
ega | 11/02/2019 11:41:09 |
2805 forum posts 219 photos | Posted by John Haine on 11/02/2019 11:37:30:
... I also have a Quorn, inherited from my dad, it took him a couple of his retirement years to make and then he hardly ever used it. I bet he had a lot of fun making it. |
derek hall 1 | 11/02/2019 13:01:12 |
322 forum posts | Well I have recently obtained a set of Quorn castings and I am about to start building it, as its the building of "things" that I enjoy. I know I can free hand grind HSS lathe tools or just buy a new milling cutter but its the challenge that interests me. Over the years the designers and builders of engines and kit that I grew up reading who now are no longer with us and I want to build a few things that they described in the ME. For example, I have built many of GHT's workshop equipment and its very worthwhile and useful kit, I have made some engines and of tools described by the late great Tubal Cain, and I always wanted to build the Quorn to the design of prof Chaddock. I did my apprenticeship in 1974 to 1978 and in the stores in the first year they had some ME magazines, and in one or two issues was the description of the Quorn...one day I thought, I want to make one of them! 45 years later I got the castings!.....as a 16 year old in 1974 perhaps that was the spark for me stay with Model Engineering for the rest of my life... Regards to all
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Baz | 11/02/2019 14:00:26 |
1033 forum posts 2 photos | John Haine, can the Worden or Acute sharpen the side flutes on milling cutters? |
Baz | 11/02/2019 14:06:00 |
1033 forum posts 2 photos | John Haine, can the Worden or Acute sharpen the side flutes on milling cutters? |
Howard Lewis | 11/02/2019 14:45:19 |
7227 forum posts 21 photos | Worden sharpening flutes of milling cutters? I have a Worden, and have not tried it, but don't see why not once a suitable fixture has been made up. Probably not a simple and straightforward device, but likely to be possible. Howard |
John Haine | 11/02/2019 16:49:42 |
5563 forum posts 322 photos | Posted by Baz on 11/02/2019 14:06:00:
John Haine, can the Worden or Acute sharpen the side flutes on milling cutters? They could with an appropriate fixture. But the Quorn can't either, very easily, because it is very hard to get a smooth spiralling movement where the work head mandrel turns smoothly and the tooth is held firmly against the tooth rest. I've tried it with mine and never succeeded. I have seen a Quorn at an exhibition with a chromed mandrel and other modifications to allow this; and a series of US articles about making an air bearing spindle which isn't very easy either. But apart from the very end of the cutter the side flutes don't generally get much wear at least in our usage, it's the end teeth that get worn. |
Brian Oldford | 11/02/2019 19:30:06 |
![]() 686 forum posts 18 photos | Isn't tackling a Quorn almost a rite of passage?
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Neil Wyatt | 11/02/2019 21:18:11 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Posted by Brian Oldford on 11/02/2019 19:30:06:
Isn't tackling a Quorn almost a rite of passage?
Acquiring a set of castings is Neil |
John P | 12/02/2019 09:41:26 |
451 forum posts 268 photos | Posted by Derek hall 1 11/02/2019 13:01:12
I did my apprenticeship in 1974 to 1978 and in the stores in the
first year they had some ME magazines, and in one or two issues
was the description of the Quorn...one day I thought, I want to
make one of them! 45 years later I got the castings!..
I hope that you stick with it.The Quorn is an enjoyable thing to
build and when it is done you will have a very useful piece of workshop
equipment.
I built mine 30+ years ago and have added to it over time.
The problems are all the same the friction of the workhead and also
John |
Emgee | 12/02/2019 10:04:39 |
2610 forum posts 312 photos | John Nice looking Quorn and a very well planned nest of swing out drawers, is that your design ? When grinding along the flutes of milling cutters I thought the cutter should be ground on the periphery of the wheel but above centre to provide back clearance, how do you grind flute back clearance ? Emgee |
John P | 12/02/2019 13:29:00 |
451 forum posts 268 photos | Posted by Emgeere"> 12/02/2019 10:04:39
John
Nice looking Quorn and a very well planned nest of swing out
drawers, is that your design ?
When grinding along the flutes of milling
cutters I thought the cutter should be ground
on the periphery of the wheel but above centre to
provide back clearance, how do you grind flute back clearance ?
Emgee
Just a matter of space saving ,some angle iron supports hold
the wooden trays on a single strut.
The photo shows in the foreground a post that is secured to the
table, this is a zero reference to the workhead axis,using a
dti the tip of the cutter is set to a zero position using
this reference.
Looking at the photo rotating the cutter anti-clockwise
increases the angle from zero to the desired amount .The
grinding wheel is at a shallow angle relative the the work
axis ,as can be seen by the black line around the edge the
point of contact is small as it should be.
Early on when i first made and used this machine this is
how i would set up,now i use the same basic method but grind
first the secondary clearance. The Quorn book seems to show
the primary clearance as 6 deg ,in a Dormer handbook this is
shown as " Clearance on body teeth , this varies progressively
across the range from 10 deg on smaller diameter tools to 5 deg
on the largest diameter . Secondary clearance ,this is 15
deg across the range".
Setting 15 deg on the machine ,20 motor steps = 1 deg ,rotating
the work shaft 300 motor steps sets the 15 deg.
When the cutter is ground, the secondary clearance can be
measured on the machine as in the photo diagram ,since from
this the true angle is known it is a simple matter to rotate
the cutter to set the primary clearance angle.
Page 94 of the Quorn book makes reference to grinding
on the periphery of the wheel.
John
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HughE | 15/02/2019 23:53:56 |
122 forum posts | Hi Guys, I resurrected this old thread on the 11th hopefully to get some answers to a couple of questions. So far no answers only responses regarding pro and cons of the Quorn. Some interesting can anybody out there answer my questions? Hugh |
derek hall 1 | 18/02/2019 13:44:32 |
322 forum posts | Hugh, I asked a guy (a well respected model engineer and I cannot recall his name He responded that Ivan Law's son was involved now in the supply of Quorn castings and that I should contact him. Unfortunately I do not have his address or email. I am assuming this person is the same that is helping in the upcoming Model Engineering exhibition at Harrogate this year.... I also asked how long did it take him to build the Quorn.....?....his reply 4 months! If you do find a UK supplier of Quorn castings then please let us know... Best regards Derek |
Neil Wyatt | 18/02/2019 15:13:51 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | The situation regarding supply of Quorn castings is somewhat complex. Ivan and Mike have made efforts to get the castings available again and any delays are not due to their tardiness. My hope is that something will be sorted in the future. Neil |
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