soba centre square

Hi Hansrudolph

You are completely of your shoes.

regards David

I agree...

To my excuse: not knowing this instrument, I thought the shiny surface was from the part which has to be marked.

Ashamedly hiding in a corner,

Hansrudolf

No, you shouldn't have to. Send it back or there's no incentive for suppliers to supply decent tooling. If you try to modify it and screw it up, you can't return it and you've lost your money.

Send the heap of scrap back! Our manufacturers were screwed by cheap Eastern goods, now they are gone the suppliers left will have to come up with the necessary quality, don't accept rubbish!

Tony

I agree with Tony send it back. For too long the suppliers of poor quality tools and castings have relied on the skill and patience of model engineers to correct faulty items often purchased at exhibitions. They will not improve quality standards if we correct things ourselves saving them from bothering. We should not have to do their quality control for them. Having been disappointed twice I no longer buy tools or measuring equipment from exhibitions.

Hi,

With a sensible head on I know I should have sent it back. I am only starting out in this fascinating hobby and couldnt resist the challenge of trying to fix it myself. After some tlc on the trusty Myford the wayward son of Soba is now a reformed character.

We are told in the jungle of the market place the best survive and the worst go to the wall, this does not allow for the distortion of economics, I think.

Anyway as an act of redemption I have sent Soba an email to see what they have to say about their shoddy workmanship, Perhaps more complaints from dissatified customers would help.

Thanks to all for comments and suggestions,

Regards om.

Edited By Oil Magnet on 21/05/2012 08:48:49

Edited By Oil Magnet on 21/05/2012 08:50:31

Hi Oil Magnet,
The problem that you have with your centre square has prompted me to look at my centre square which has the same fault as yours but not as bad. I found that the "V" was not 90 Deg. and the sides of the "V" were not even straight. If I could remove the blade from the "V" I could correct the errors. I can only see one mark that could be the head of a rivet so I am not sure how the plade is attached. (I would have expected two rivets.) Does anyone know how the blade is attached ?

Les.

Hi Les

My Soba centre square is held together with rivets.

CS

Hi,

Mine also has two rivets.

Looks like Indian Friday afternoons start on Monday morning.

om.

Edited By Oil Magnet on 21/05/2012 14:43:18

More likely hobby exhibitions are a brilliant opportunity to shift returns that you wouldn't sell over the counter or by post.

Joey

Hi,

just in case anyone else feels like sending a complaint,

**LINK**

om.

Hey guys

Just before we start another character assassination - OM's square is faulty, mine is not. All manufacturers occasionally have faulty products and some will slip through into the supply chain. Your beef is not with the manufacturer but with the retailer who is obliged to replace or refund. I've never had any trouble in gaining satisfaction via this route - just ring the folk you bought it from. In my experience SOBA are a reputable supplier of engineering kit at affordable prices - kit suitable for use in OUR workshops - I can't answer for an industrial environment.

Regards

Norman

Edited By NJH on 21/05/2012 16:26:58

Hi,

Norman does your centre square have the company logo on the radial arm like the one on the box ?.

Mine does not . I am thinking bootleg copies.

Regards om.

Just tried mine which is a 'Groz' product. Oops, that's way out too.

Still, as I've had mine for at least a couple pf years and not needed/used it (seemed like a good idea at the time) I think I'll just put it down to experience!

Paul

Hi

Perhaps I should have added that that my Soba centre square is accurate.

CS

not sure on the actual maker of mine but it came from rgd tools, spot on

Oh dear, it seems to be armchair legal advice time again...

Personally I seriously doubt that trading standards, even if you can contact them, are about to be getting into a pi$$ing contest with a ME show stallholder over what constitutes merchantable quality/fitness for purpose in a "measuring instrument" that cost 2s6d and which makes no claims to any particular degree of accuracy. My guess is that they would probably file the complaint in the usual place and tell you that they are looking into it.

Far better just to contact the supplier & ask for a refund or replacement, or use it as a missile to launch at the neighbour's cat when it fertilises your hardy annuals.

Regards,

Tony

Thanks oil Magnet & Cross Slide. I have found the second rivet and removed both rivets. I have made a start on re machining it. Just for the record mine was bought from Warco about 5 years ago. It does not have any brand name on it.

Les.

Hi,

I put a few more pics in the album if anyones interested. I dare say the set up might raise a few more experienced eyebrows but what the heck I thinkI did a better job of it than Soba.

My concern now is my new HBM 6 inch 4 jaw chuck , It cost more than 2/6d and if its not up to it next- doors cat could get flattened.

Regards om.

Not just a better job, it is spot on! (I expanded photo to limit and it is still OK)