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Howard Lewis15/05/2018 20:36:55
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Bought Diamond Turning Tools from the Eccentric Engineering stand. Got home and found a problem when trying them out. Reported my problem to Gary Sneesby, and we began an exchange of messages, investigating. My alternative solution worked, but did not use a feature that he had deliberately built into the tooling.

He confirmed what I thought would be a problem.. Today I rectified this and everything now works as it should.

Thanks to Gary's advice the problem is now solved! Here's to lots of successful and enjoyable lathe work.

Howard

mike T15/05/2018 20:58:56
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Howard,

Thanks for your uninformative post.

You had a problem, now you and Gary have fixed it.

Well done.

Oldiron15/05/2018 22:37:35
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 15/05/2018 20:36:55:

Bought Diamond Turning Tools from the Eccentric Engineering stand. Got home and found a problem when trying them out. Reported my problem to Gary Sneesby, and we began an exchange of messages, investigating. My alternative solution worked, but did not use a feature that he had deliberately built into the tooling.

He confirmed what I thought would be a problem.. Today I rectified this and everything now works as it should.

Thanks to Gary's advice the problem is now solved! Here's to lots of successful and enjoyable lathe work.

Howard

Hi Howard. It would probably help another member if you actually mentioned the problem & the fix.

regards

Eccentric Engineer16/05/2018 07:25:34
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Hi All

Howard contacted me to say he was having some issues with chatter and that he thought the problem was due to a fault with the supplied HSS toolbit as it had a chamfer down one corner.
This is actually a small radius that I grind down the front corner of each HSS and Crobalt tool bit to improve surface finish and reinforce the cutting edge. Much the same as an indexable carbide tip has a radius on each corner.for the same reason.

Howard sent me some pictures of his setup and it was clear the problem was because the tool bit was set way too high up and the holder was extended out from the tool post about 20mm, so rigidity was significantly reduced.

After dropping the toolbit to the recommended height and re-positioning the holder hard up against the toolpost the chatter issue has been eliminated.

Cheers to everyone who dropped by the stand on the weekend and it was good to see a lot of familiar faces again from the past few years smiley

Cheers

Gary

Phil P16/05/2018 08:06:26
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 15/05/2018 20:36:55:

"My alternative solution worked, but did not use a feature that he had deliberately built into the tooling."

 

So it was pilot error rather than an actual problem with the tooling then. I am curious what the "alternative solution" was though.

I use these tools on both my lathes and find they are very easy to set up, and do exactly as promised.

One thing I learnt watching Gary's video at the show was how to twist the tool bit 90° and use it to give a very fine "shearing" cut on one side.

Phil

Edited By JasonB on 16/05/2018 11:21:06

not done it yet16/05/2018 08:28:13
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It would also help if following posters separated their additions and did not add to the quoted section. Sometimes very misleading, always necessary to sort out where the quote ends and the reply starts, and finally it is posting the member’s post as an adulterated quote.

Oldiron16/05/2018 09:49:04
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IPosted by not done it yet on 16/05/2018 08:28:13:

It would also help if following posters separated their additions and did not add to the quoted section. Sometimes very misleading, always necessary to sort out where the quote ends and the reply starts, and finally it is posting the member’s post as an adulterated quote.

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If the forum got rid of the stupid formatting down the left hand side it would help us all. Then all we need to do is leave a couple of blank lines before commenting. I am on many forums and this is the only one I know of with this format.

regards

not done it yet16/05/2018 10:43:41
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It is what it is. No reason to add to other people’s quotes which then might get requoted ad nauseum.

Howard Lewis16/05/2018 22:19:39
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My objective in posting was to highlight the fact that having had a problem, Gary at Eccentric Engineering helped me to solve it.

My "alternative solution" was to grind the toolbit so that the radiused corner was no longer the cutting edge, i e a true diamond tool. This cured the problem with the original set up, but meant that I was effectively cutting a shallow 454 tpi thread. of unusual form. (If you think about it, all feeds produce a helical cut; regular if using power feed, more irregular if hand fed)

It is easy to complain about a supplier who provides poor service or back up; but those who support their product and the end user, often "going the extra mile", do deserve praise.

Mike T

Can you please tell who said that e sarcasm is the lowest form of wit?

I thought that the Forum is for members to help each other

Howard

Oldiron16/05/2018 22:52:39
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Posted by not done it yet on 16/05/2018 10:43:41:

It is what it is. No reason to add to other people’s quotes which then might get requoted ad nauseum.

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I am sure the webmaster could stop the formatting at the bottom of the quote sequence.

regards

Neil Wyatt16/05/2018 22:55:02
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Just to show you can type above a quote - see below for how.

Posted by Oldiron on 16/05/2018 09:49:04:
IPosted by not done it yet on 16/05/2018 08:28:13:

It would also help if following posters separated their additions and did not add to the quoted section. Sometimes very misleading, always necessary to sort out where the quote ends and the reply starts, and finally it is posting the member’s post as an adulterated quote.

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If the forum got rid of the stupid formatting down the left hand side it would help us all. Then all we need to do is leave a couple of blank lines before commenting. I am on many forums and this is the only one I know of with this format.

regards

Err... the forum automatically inserts a blank line at the bottom, just like you are asking for, I'm typing on it now.

If you accidentally delete it or want to type above the quote, hover with the mouse and a red 'return' box will appear, click it and you get a blank line added above or below as appropriate.

Neil

JasonB17/05/2018 06:59:40
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You will also see that I edited the post in question to separate quoted test from comment in the same way Neil describes, just like the problem with the cutter it's a user issue not the tool/machine/software.

Oldiron17/05/2018 10:08:37
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Posted by JasonB on 17/05/2018 06:59:40:

You will also see that I edited the post in question to separate quoted test from comment in the same way Neil describes, just like the problem with the cutter it's a user issue not the tool/machine/software.

Thank you Neil & Jasonb for pointing out the correct way to enter text after a quoted post.

I must admit that I had never seen the redline before, I had always just hit return below the quoted text to start a new line.

regards

Mike Poole28/08/2018 17:02:08
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Does anyone know if a date has been confirmed for the 2019 show?

Mike

Watford28/08/2018 19:51:57
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Posted by Mike Poole on 28/08/2018 17:02:08:

Does anyone know if a date has been confirmed for the 2019 show?

Mike

Leaving a line .............

That would be the next ME/MEW show would it?

Mike 2.

Mike Poole28/08/2018 20:03:40
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The 26th National Model Engineering and Modelling Show at Doncaster Racecourse to be precise.

Mike

Mark Rand28/08/2018 20:34:03
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It isn't the 26th one at Doncaster Racecourse, since it started at Donnington...

cheeky

S.D.L.28/08/2018 22:36:39
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Posted by Mark Rand on 28/08/2018 20:34:03:

It isn't the 26th one at Doncaster Racecourse, since it started at Donnington...

cheeky

Err it started at Harrogate.

The one at Donnington was at kenilwirth before that and had aprevious home and is now at foss wayj.

Steve

Mark Rand29/08/2018 00:48:44
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Posted by S.D.L. on 28/08/2018 22:36:39:

Posted by Mark Rand on 28/08/2018 20:34:03:

It isn't the 26th one at Doncaster Racecourse, since it started at Donnington...

cheeky

Err it started at Harrogate.

The one at Donnington was at kenilwirth before that and had aprevious home and is now at foss wayj.

Steve

I was sober when I made that post, that must've been the problem!

Am I allowed to say that both Harrogate and Donnington seemed better than Doncaster and Fosse Way(between Radford Semele and Ufton)?

Might be that I was a few years younger though. On the other hand, I actually had a chat with Prof Chaddock at the ME exhibition when it moved to Seymour Hall in 1968. That made it the best exhibition I've ever attended. I was not quite ten at the time!

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