Neat cutting oil. (recommendation)

Having been told by some one who would be extremely old now if still alive that sperm whale oil is best for taps and dies I've bought a bottle of jojoba oil. Going on it's properties it might make a very good rather low speed cutting oil.

It's mentioned here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_oil

I bought organic of course.

Any good - TBD but the hand soap we use is excellent on aluminium. Not so keen on tap and die stuff that can be bought but it may work more effectively on some materials.

Taps and dies pulling themselves in Tut Tut bad practice. They will back cut threads already cut and "forward" cut these if people press too hard.

John

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Hi Cotswoldphil,

Get yourself one of these;

http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/09520057

Mine came over from the US as a gift from Tom Lipton, of youtube fame. Not bragging, just saying he is a very generous chap and all round good egg.

chriStephens

Trike? What is that?

TRIKE, smoke a fag over it and find out! John, you should know better - I have to make do with carbon tet, sold from under the counter - of course.

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A popular name for Trichloroethylene

MichaelG.

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More information here [including its 'non flammable' classification]

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 10/01/2016 08:56:08

Even though it's non flammable, it is still an unstable and dangerous liquid. If you don't know what you are doing, stay well away from it.

Ketan at ARC

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Quite so, Ketan

MichaelG.

Re. TRIKE, smoke a fag over it and find out!

My father unfortunately did a similar thing - what he thought it was a good idea at the time was to degrease some overalls in the trike degreasing tank and didnt air them long enough before hanging them up in his office. This was in the days when smoking was allowed anywhere in the building. Consequently he came down with a serious bout of toximia. To this day I don't know how he got away with permanent liver damage. 'Rest is socks....

PS hyrogliphics problem solved - stopped using Chrome browser now switch to Safari on iPad!

I believe that somewhere in the Midlands there was a Trike well. So much had been absorbed into the ground that the stuff was actually having to be pumped out.

I last saw the stuff being used about 15 years ago and it brought back memories of my apprenticeship. Truly awful stuff.

JA

Edited By JA on 10/01/2016 10:39:12

I did exactly that, in my first ever job, in a factory in the 60's - passed clean out. Fortunately I fell backwards to the floor rather than forwards into the trike-tank... Not really surprising, as its original use was as a new wonder anaesthetic.

Bob... Wasn't that Ether or Chloroform as an anaesthetic? We use to use Choroform at school for glueing perplex together - very affective I seem to remember. What HSE and Coshh regs would make of that now G' only knows!

Edited By Johnboy25 on 10/01/2016 11:05:52

Bob... Just look up the chemical properties of trike on t'internet - total surprised that trike was used in earlier medical days!

Edited By Johnboy25 on 10/01/2016 11:14:50

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Useful reference, posted earlier

Thought that Tric had been outlawed, YEARS ago, because of its dangers. Was an excellent degreaser, but dangerous!

Having said that, much the same can be applied to almost any of the Hydrocarbon/Halogen degreasing agents.

Most certainly do not smoke near them, or breathe in the vapour. Not good for the skin either; well they are degreasing agents!

Howard

Trike is known to be addictive. They have tried all sorts of things as anaesthetics and it sometimes takes them a while to find out if they cause more serious problems than others.

Smoking around it has been a no no in some factories for a long long time. I think it's trike but not totally sure but once the fumes pass through a lit cigarette it can turn into something akin to mustard gas.

John

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We used to have a trike filled vapour degreaser in one of our departments. Worked great on outside surfaces but not so good on the inside of things like pipes as the part heated up before any vapour condensed inside it. The spray lance did not give enough flow to clean inside larger pipes. One of the guys decided to clean off a bending machine using some trike as the machine was covered in very sticky drawing oil. After using it he stopped for a smoke and promptly collapsed. He seems to have recovered with no ill effects. I think the breakdown products from heating trike included phosgene gas.

The vapour degreasing process was replaced with a pumped floew, filtered, heated light oil tank (similar to paraffin/kerosene without the smell). The oil is only clean until it is first used and after that is contaminated with whatever oil is washed off parts (including the sticky drawing oil). The reason for change was the Montreal Protocol as trike helped with ozone depletion. It was also used as propellant in some aerosols and has been replaced in some cases with flammable butane which causes other health, safety and environmental problems.

To keep on topic, I use Rocol Multisol "soluble" oil.

Martin

Edited By Martin Connelly on 11/01/2016 09:38:54

Trichlorethyline is banned, also Freon and any another derivitive for cleaning. The makers say that they do not see a type of cleaner like that in the forseeable future.

There was another cleaner, Inhibited chlorethene 1.1.1 Which we used for deagreasing and we then re-distilled it clean in an all in one system. All gone now as an ozone depletor.

Now we use white spirit and a hot detergent wash and into the ultrasonic and a blow dry and slightly heated. A product called Micro in the agueous ultrasonic with a 2% solution mix. This Micro is used to clean items by the US Atomic agency and passes all their protocols.

As a by, the Freon was the only thing that would clean the screens in the reflex cameras without damaging them.

Clive

Regrettably Morrisons now only sell CoraB in 25 litre or 250L quantities. 25L is ~£160+VAT - which is a bit much for me in both quantity and price. Anybody got any suggestions for an alternative? Many thanks

Edited By Richard Brickwood on 17/02/2022 10:13:23

Back in the 70's I worked for a small company who restored office equipment - primarily electro mechanical invoicing machinery (pre-computer). These consisted of a vast amount of parts that were removed , cleaned and re-fitted if servicable. There were about 10 of use working in a large converted victorian house near Birmingham.

We used stuff called 'Ultraclean' (a trade name) by the gallon in spray cans, think it was basically Trike?

Virtually everyone smoked, ventilation was by someone opening the back door if everyone complained of stinging eyes! Gawd knows what damage we must have done to ourselves but H&S didn't seem to come into it in those days. For all their faults and excessive over-the-top nonsense, at least workers are better protected in most cases these days.

Mike

I seem to remember that Trichloroethane, which we used copious amounts of for degreasing in the Air Force, was found to be absorbed through the skin and could cause nerve damage. Remember working with it in a very confined space and ending up a bit high from it. Dave W