Rik Shaw | 09/06/2017 18:16:41 |
![]() 1494 forum posts 403 photos | I had one like this a few years ago and it ended its acquaintance with me at a car boot sale and good riddance. I know exactly where this bloke is coming from. **LINK** |
Ady1 | 09/06/2017 18:27:05 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | Pretty much what I got at Lidl recently. Fine for wee holes but big holes (over 5mm) in metal are simply asking too much from it Edit: mine has an extra pulley in the middle, so a larger range of speeds Edited By Ady1 on 09/06/2017 18:31:12 |
Andrew Tinsley | 09/06/2017 18:51:19 |
1817 forum posts 2 photos | When a local DIY multiple closed down, several years ago. I picked up a very similar one for £15. I chose the best of three that were left and assumed it might be OK for a little light drilling with a few tweaks. Well, it is still going strong and manages a 15mm blacksmith drill, in steel, with no sweat! I am constantly amazed at what it does. I have been waiting for the motor to expire, but no sign of that yet. I modified the grub screw in the quill groove with a brass spacer, and trued up the table and that is about all I have done to it. I have a 1/2 inch Fobco which is more or less unused, I need to change the motor to a single phase job. However I am too lazy to do the conversion while the cheapie Chinese drill keeps going. Andrew |
Neil Wyatt | 09/06/2017 19:39:25 |
![]() 19226 forum posts 749 photos 86 articles | Looks identical to the drill press that kept me going for 17 years! Yes it wobbled a bit, but no problem drilling up to 10mm or less than 1mm for circuit boards! I never did get around to splitting the casting to get rid of the wobble. Neil |
Ian Skeldon 2 | 09/06/2017 23:33:52 |
543 forum posts 54 photos | Ahhh no, I thought I was the only one to own such rubbish. In fairness mine was kindly given to me and is ok for very light use. The table bends downwards if I use too much pressure with larger drills, hence no accuracy built in, oh yes and mine also has the idler in the middle, mine is noisy, vibrates and hardly gets used now as I use the mill. Ian |
Mike Poole | 10/06/2017 00:36:16 |
![]() 3676 forum posts 82 photos | I had a Naerok drill which I was pleased with initially, it became apparent that it had some major shortcomings as an engineering machine, I bought a Meddings MF4 and have been totally satisfied as it ticks all the boxes that an engineering drilling machine should. It made me realise that some machines do not meet the expectations of a well engineered and fit for purpose machine. Over the last 30 years huge strides have been made in the quality and functionality of imported machinery and now we have the opportunity to buy some very good value for money machines. The highest spec and highest quality will still cost serious money but the hobby market machines chosen with care will give a very satisfying performance for the price, far better than some of the bargain basement equipment served up from the home market in the past. Mike |
Speedy Builder5 | 10/06/2017 07:00:12 |
2878 forum posts 248 photos | Just looking at the bottom of the page, are these tools any good because the prices are surely give away prices. |
Robbo | 10/06/2017 08:15:04 |
1504 forum posts 142 photos | I have a small drill press that looks the same, got it from the workshop of a deceased friend, had hardly been used. Made in Taiwan in 1989, branded AOK, it is a lovely little machine, no excessive play anywhere. I did have a Meddings Pacera which was really in the way, this little job has happily replaced it.
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John Flack | 10/06/2017 08:19:15 |
171 forum posts | Assuming the pic is the guys workbench, he has some serious 'weeding' to do. Swarf,sawdust and spiders in my shed, but plant life never. Perhaps I should avoid the question as to the nature and purpose in 'weed' culture.😈😈 |
john carruthers | 10/06/2017 08:21:09 |
![]() 617 forum posts 180 photos | worth £15 for the motor ? |
Ady1 | 10/06/2017 08:43:03 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | The motors are partial dutycycle and they get pretty hot when you work them No-one has ever said they managed to fry one yet though, and some owners have had one for at least a decade The lidl one is s2-15min class B, 500w Edited By Ady1 on 10/06/2017 08:45:48 Edited By Ady1 on 10/06/2017 08:51:43 |
Ady1 | 10/06/2017 08:52:03 |
![]() 6137 forum posts 893 photos | I would say that their greatest potential advantage is their portability If you can sort out the design shortcomings you have a very portable bench drill you can lug almost anywhere Edited By Ady1 on 10/06/2017 08:52:42 |
Bob Stevenson | 10/06/2017 09:01:10 |
579 forum posts 7 photos | The thing about cheap Chinese machine tools that has interested me most is the amazing polarity of the buyers....on the one hand there are those who love to repeat how bad this rubbish is because it's so badly made compared to Myford and how any half accurate work is completely impossible to achieve....ad infinitum...
On the other side are those who are quietly turning out the most amazing work while acknowledging their low initial expectations and their pleasure in discovering that you don't indeed, always get what you pay for!....sometimes you get a bit more besides!
My 'Chinese Cheapies' have enabled me to stretch my money much further than I ever imagined...my Aldi drilling machine is still making nice accurate holes in steel and brass after 5 years but strangely enough I have never deflected the table by using drilling pressure......... |
SillyOldDuffer | 10/06/2017 09:51:29 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | I've had one very like that for over 10 years. It's nowhere near as bad as the seller describes. It's not a precision tool either! I'd say the thing is OK within it's limitations, I tend to use mine for quick drilling where accuracy isn't paramount. It will drill metal. A few things come to mind:
Dave |
Hopper | 10/06/2017 10:17:38 |
![]() 7881 forum posts 397 photos | Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 10/06/2017 09:51:29:
Not just cheap drill presses benefit from this approach. Was the way I was taught to use a drill press in the toolroom. Mount job in vice, put bolt/s loosely through the vice hold-down slots and through the drill press table slots, tighten nuts lightly by finger, allowing job to "float" yet preventing rotation if the drill bit grabs. Yes, drill will pick up on the centre punch mark and centre the job to suit. For trickier set ups, same result is obtained by clamping job or vice firmly to the table, but allowing table to pivot on centre pivot and the mounting arm on the pillar so it floats to correct position. |
SillyOldDuffer | 10/06/2017 10:52:59 |
10668 forum posts 2415 photos | Posted by Hopper on 10/06/2017 10:17:38:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 10/06/2017 09:51:29:
... For trickier set ups, same result is obtained by clamping job or vice firmly to the table, but allowing table to pivot on centre pivot and the mounting arm on the pillar so it floats to correct position. Another useful hint, thanks! You can't do that directly on the cheapo model I have because table height and angle are both locked by the same screw. Making a collar to control height independently would be easy enough: I'm tempted. Can anyone suggest any other improvements to this type of drill? Dave |
wheeltapper | 10/06/2017 11:02:32 |
![]() 424 forum posts 98 photos | I've got one like that, had it at least 25 years, got it in buy and queue for £30. it, s done everything I needed.
Roy. |
speelwerk | 10/06/2017 12:13:05 |
464 forum posts 2 photos | Posted by wheeltapper on 10/06/2017 11:02:32:
I've got one like that, had it at least 25 years, got it in buy and queue for £30. it, s done everything I needed.
Roy. Same with me, have it now for over 30 years. German made it came with a Rohm 1-13 mm drill chuck. No idea what I paid for it but not much. Niko. Edited By speelwerk on 10/06/2017 12:41:05 |
Ian Skeldon 2 | 11/06/2017 19:18:23 |
543 forum posts 54 photos | Like I said, I was given mine, so it's only to be expected that it isn't going to be a fine quality machine. Yes the table distorts downwards when drilling 30mm aluminium even drilling it slowly and using gradually bigger drills, it results in the top of the hole being where it should be and the bottom of the hole being forward of the axis. It has however served me well but as I now have a mill that is very precise and functional I tend to use that, i might look at servicing the drill, or just scrap it off. My Chinese lathe is doing a great job and is certainly worth every penny and means that I have managed to get a good quality lathe producing great results, rather than a worn out British one at the same price. |
Ian Skeldon 2 | 11/06/2017 19:29:42 |
543 forum posts 54 photos | Posted by Bob Stevenson on 10/06/2017 09:01:10:
The thing about cheap Chinese machine tools that has interested me most is the amazing polarity of the buyers....on the one hand there are those who love to repeat how bad this rubbish is because it's so badly made compared to Myford and how any half accurate work is completely impossible to achieve....ad infinitum... The cheap drilling machine given to me , is not great, has had lots of use by x number of previous owners. Being Chinese doesn't mean that all the machinery is the same, just that they were all made in China. On the other side are those who are quietly turning out the most amazing work while acknowledging their low initial expectations and their pleasure in discovering that you don't indeed, always get what you pay for!....sometimes you get a bit more besides! My Chinese lathe is great, no run out on the spindle, smooth and vibration free, accurate every time. My 'Chinese Cheapies' have enabled me to stretch my money much further than I ever imagined...my Aldi drilling machine is still making nice accurate holes in steel and brass after 5 years but strangely enough I have never deflected the table by using drilling pressure......... I've seen the diameter of brass you turn Bob and given how light a cut you take, I doubt you will ever deflect anything. II'll give you some of my stock to have a go with if you want ? ATB Ian |
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