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EtheAv8r10/05/2011 13:30:14
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I have ordered the Eccentric Diamond Tool Holder. It comes with a single ¼ inch square HSS tool of M42 grade, 8% cobalt HSS and I am looking for additional supplies. It is supposedly easily available… but clearly I am rather simple as I cannot find a UK supplier.

I am hoping that some of you can point me in the direction of a UK mail order supplier of suitable HSS tool steel blanks?

Spurry10/05/2011 13:43:42
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GLR are showing them at £2.95
HSS TOOLSTEEL 5% COBALT HS182-1/4" square x 4" long
 
Pete
chris stephens10/05/2011 15:12:44
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Hi E,
As I have written in another topic you cannot be sure what you are buying these days. I bought some 10% cobalt HSS from J&L thinking I was buying a brand that proudly boasts that their products are U.S. made, only to find "China" written on the stuff. J&L do list Eclipse brand HSS, which again should be UK made, but who knows these days.
 
1/4" HSS should still be available from any proper engineering supply house, in a variety of grades.
If you go to any auto jumble and rummage around used machinery stands, you should be able to fine lots of short lengths, which is all you need for a Tangential holder, for pennies..
 
When you get your holder do write again and tell us what you think of it.
chriStephens
PS the GLR price seems too good to be a non China product, and such things do not always attract favourable comments. A 4" length of Eclipse of 5%Cobalt is over £12.
JasonB10/05/2011 15:53:12
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Tracy tools do them for £1.50 but you can't be certain of what you are getting quality wise
 
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Brian10/05/2011 17:00:17
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Try Buck & Hickman, they have RBK Cobalt in the size needed, two and a half inches long at £ 8.28 +Vat not cheep but its Roebuck, must be good?
Flying Fifer10/05/2011 20:50:15
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Have a look on Ebay. I bought 2 boxes each having 12 at 1/4" square & 12 at 3/8" square . Each box was marked Eclipse, very grubby (old) contents still wrapped in oiled paper & in perfect condition. They were advertised as "Bits as new old stock" Total cost including post was £5.75. No one put in a bid. Couldn`t believe my luck.
 
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_Paul_10/05/2011 23:34:39
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There is a marked difference in M42 and the chinese tool steel, I have had a Diamond toolholder for around 18 months now and the M42 tool steel it came with goes around twice as long before re-sharpening and is more resistant to the odd mishap.
 
I found this M42 seems a bit expensive in comparison to the Chinese stuff.
 
Regards
 
Paul
EtheAv8r11/05/2011 12:43:02
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OK very interesting - some of these HSS Steel tool blanks are not specified as M42 - and therefore they are not and it is unclear what they are!
The HSS TOOLSTEEL 5% COBALT from Model Making Supplies http://www.modelmakingsupplies.co.uk/machine-tools-2.htm are cheap and so look worth a try, and RDG Tools do a pack of 5 HSSTool Steel (grade 6532) for £9 (normally £3.25 a piece) http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/Special_Offer_packs_of_5__reduced_prices_.html and these could be worth a try.

I have found a UK supplier of genuine European produced M42 - West Yorkshire Steel - and they do a great range (see http://www.westyorkssteel.com/tool_bits.html) but supply business and industry. However they are prepared to supply in minimum quantities of 20 - or even 10 and I am getting a price from them, it will be interesting to see how their prices campare to the Knighton ones posted above.

_Paul_12/05/2011 14:40:13
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E,
 
Have you considered contacting the owner of Eccentric Engineering (Gary Sneesby) perhaps he can recommend a UK supplier?
 
Regards
 
Paul
NJH12/05/2011 14:49:35
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I find 4in bits a bit of a nuisance - too long in holders- and I prefer the 2 1/2 in. length. If you are exclusively using an Eccentric holder then resharpening is so easy that doing it a bit more frequently is not a problem.
Cheers
 
Norman

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EtheAv8r12/05/2011 15:30:50
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Posted by _Paul_ on 12/05/2011 14:40:13:
E,
 
Have you considered contacting the owner of Eccentric Engineering (Gary Sneesby) perhaps he can recommend a UK supplier?
 
Regards
 
Paul
 
 
The UK agent is Tania Sneesby, email [email protected] or ring 01524 751 731 see http://www.eccenticengineering.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17&Itemid=17
 
I called her on Tuesday, paid by PayPal (but direct bank transfer is also quick) and the tool kit arrived yesterday (Wedneday). Better service than that is not possible. Also if you order direct from Aus or USA it will cost you more - unusual in ROB.

Edited By EtheAv8r on 12/05/2011 15:31:56

_Paul_13/05/2011 01:34:25
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I asked the manufacturer direct see the mail chain below.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul [mailto [email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Website Enquiry from eccentricengineering.com.au

The following enquiry has been submitted on the eccentricengineering.com.au
website:

First Name: Paul
Last Name: xxxxx
Email Address: [email protected]
Phone Number:
Questions or Comments:

Hello,

Can you help, I am from the UK and have one of your excellent Diamond
Toolholders.
The original piece of tool steel supplied with it is almost at an end, do
you have a recommended supplier of suitable M42 1/4" tool steel in the UK.

Regards

Paul
 
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RE: Website Enquiry from eccentricengineering.com.au
Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:23 PM
From:
"Gary Sneesby" <[email protected]>
To:
"'Paul'" [email protected]

Hi Paul

Thanks for your enquiry and glad to hear you are happy with the tool.
Here's a couple of links to suppliers in the UK.

http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/Engineering_Menu_HSS_Lathe_Tools___Sets__
_Loose_HSS_Toolsteel__5__Cobalt__66.html Chronos stocks a 5% cobalt HSS
which I believe is classed as M35. M42 has 8% cobalt, I haven't used M35
before so I'm afraid I can't tell you how they compare.

http://www.westyorkssteel.com/tool_bits.html  This company sells M42, not
sure if they do mail order or sell in small quantities, just give them a
call to find out.

Hope that helps.

Best regards Gary

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