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Paul Clapham07/08/2010 09:41:04
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Hi I am looking to purchase a shot/bead blast cabinet to clean up and refurbish my 3" scale traction engine.
Can anyone sugest which one to buy, and which media to use?
Regards Paul.
Eric Cox07/08/2010 10:24:11
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As you're only going to use it for cleaning up your traction engine wouldn't it make sense to take the parts to a shot blast company.
KWIL07/08/2010 10:39:49
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Shot blasting companies charge around £1.00 per min for small jobs!
Paul Boscott07/08/2010 10:41:35
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Paul
 
Beg, borrow or buy  "How not to paint a locomotive" I think there is a good write up of the problems surrounding Blasting
 
Paul
Paul Clapham07/08/2010 20:36:29
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Ok thanks for your replies, I do have a copy of "How not to paint a locomotive"I will dig it out and have a read. 
the artfull-codger09/09/2010 21:08:20
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paul, if you're going to buy one there's some pressurised pot ones at the autojumbles for around the £100 odd mark, they're much more powerfull than the old suction type, sand blasters use quite a lot of cfm as well, sand is illegal in industry [I've used it myself on many occasions] with a mask on, otherwise if you're not ''in the know'' it's probably good old machine mart!! grit.  hope this helps.regards graham
Sam Stones10/09/2010 01:01:06
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Hi Paul,

A couple of points about this subject.

1. Always wear strong rubber gloves.

As an apprentice, while cleaning some tiny parts on an industrial vapour honing machine (it’s like shot blasting but wet), I decided to leave off wearing the rubber gloves so that I could get a better grip of the parts.

Shortly after, I tried to pick up something from the bench only to discover that I’d worn away most of my thumb nail and some skin from my finger.

2. Since the mid 60's as a technical officer in the plastics supply business, I have been advocating glass-bead blasting of mould surfaces of injection moulds when sticking of the parts (esp. polypropylene) is likely during ejection. This has become the norm with the better toolmaking shops, so if you are planning to go ahead in one way or another, maybe one of the plastics toolmakers can help.

Regards,

Sam

Axel10/09/2010 08:53:53
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I have a bead blast cabinet its not up an running atm, but will be soon. Sorry you live in the UK! mine need 400ccm, so I have 5,5hp compressor. As you can see its not a set up you get for a one off job! For cleaning up you can use glass bead of various mesh. Id look up a gunsmith in the yellow pages, they often have this stuff for finishing and stress relieiving. A machine like this must have air filters, or you can get sick from the dust!
 
Also tobacco pipe makers have this equipment for finishing, if you know of any such craftsmen in the area!
Ian S C10/09/2010 09:05:19
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In  NZ these days ground up glass seens to be the main  thing available, and thats what I'll use when and if I finish building my sand blasting cabinet, I made the gun, got the big plastic box. Just need the gloves and some form of flange to fit them to the box. My expiriance of blasting is with crushed wallnut shells, for de-carbing aero engines.
I don't know if my compressor is quite up to it, but I'v got a second one recently, just needs some work on the pressure switch, then I can run them both. Ian S C
Spurry10/09/2010 11:34:15
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The glass beads are not so aggressive as sand. Sealey sell a range of reasonably priced cabinets. The expense is not the cabinet, but the compressor to feed it with air.
 
I may able to help out, if you are anywhere near St Albans.
 
Pete
Paul Clapham10/09/2010 19:23:17
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Hi Guys thanks for all of your input. I am tempted by the sealey range, I do have a 3hp compressor which I think will cope as for the media I will experiment with a range of products and see what the results are.I work in an industry where we use a grinding media which is not available to the general public this will be my first trial.
Regards Paul.
John Reid 127/12/2010 22:43:00
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Paul,
A late answer to your question!
I bought a 2nd hand Guyson blaster at an auction. It needed an overhaul, but all the parts are available from Guyson. They are very helpful and happy to deal with private individuals.
I use a 27cfm compressor.
Most of my blasting is done with Honite 13 (Glass Bead), which as already mentioned, cleans without dimensional change. Gives a good surface for etch-priming, but if you need a bit more of a "key" for paint primer, you could use 80-120 Saftigrit. Both are Guyson products. I have no connection with the company, except being a satisfied user.
John R
Paul Clapham29/12/2010 19:30:53
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John thanks for the information, I have picked up a second hand sealey unit which I am refurbishing and will try the media that you have mentioned.
Regards Paul.
Ian Abbott29/12/2010 20:03:46
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After a local illegal drug manufacturer/pusher was sent off to spend time at Her Majesty's Pleasure, I nicked his safe box, with its glass window and heavy gloves.  A hole in the side for the shop vac and I had a great blast cabinet.
 
After a move, I used the pattern to build a bigger unit out of five quid's worth of surplus MDF and a piece of glass from an old window.  The hopper under the grille in the base was a five gallon plastic paint bucket with a spout in the bottom and the blast gun was a cheapo, a la Machine Mart.   After the last move, I now need to build another new one.
 
Ian 

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