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To fix Neodymium Magnets.

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Bo'sun23/08/2023 13:46:55
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Good afternoon All,

As the title suggests, what adhesive to fix Neodymium Magnets to Mild Steel?

I have Araldite and JB Weld. Are there better options?

I guess roughing-up (and degreasing of course) both surfaces would be a good idea.

Michael Gilligan23/08/2023 14:01:04
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There are some very good double-sided tapes available these days

MichaelG.

Ady123/08/2023 14:06:11
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pinkgrip

Clive Foster23/08/2023 14:25:53
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Pattex branded cyanoacrylate (superglue) worked fine for me when I put magnets into the aluminium soft jaw covers I use on my big Record vice. Magnets came from a LiDL "40 pack" and were recessed into the alloy. Cleaned before sticking but not abraded.

I have my doubts about Pinkgrip. Instructions say one surface should be porous. My experience is that sticking metal or similar impermeable substance on to wood or similar surfaces results in far longer drying times, up to 2 days, than sticking to porous surfaces together.

Clive

modeng200023/08/2023 14:38:50
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Magnetism is good.

Michael Gilligan23/08/2023 14:43:20
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Posted by modeng2000 on 23/08/2023 14:38:50:

Magnetism is good.

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Sounds an attractive option yes

MichaelG.

John Rudd23/08/2023 14:47:16
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Is that a repulsive answer Michael? 🤣

I’ll get me coat…

JasonB23/08/2023 14:56:44
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JBWeld would be attractive if it's going to get hot or come into contact with fuel

Bo'sun23/08/2023 15:51:11
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Good point Jason,

Not fuel, but cutting fluid. I'm making some removable way covers.

SillyOldDuffer23/08/2023 16:23:43
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The tachometer magnets on my lathe spindle sit in a flat bottomed shallow recess. Whilst the magnets are more than powerful enough to stay on the spindle at 2500 rpm. the recess lip is needed to stop them sliding. No adhesive needed.

As Magnets and glue are both weak in shear, a physical restraint is best, not glue. Only needs a shallow lip.

Dave

duncan webster23/08/2023 16:48:24
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You can get pot magnets with a countersunk hole in the middle, then bolt them on. Let ebay be your friend

Dave Halford23/08/2023 17:14:38
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Posted by Bo'sun on 23/08/2023 13:46:55:

Good afternoon All,

As the title suggests, what adhesive to fix Neodymium Magnets to Mild Steel?

I have Araldite and JB Weld. Are there better options?

I guess roughing-up (and degreasing of course) both surfaces would be a good idea.

Watch the roughing up, Neodymium is very prone to rust hence the plating on them.

Peter Greene23/08/2023 18:23:29
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 23/08/2023 16:23:43:

As Magnets and glue are both weak in shear, a physical restraint is best, not glue. Only needs a shallow lip.

In my day, most typical adhesives were considered strong in shear, weak in tension - cyano-acrylate (superglue) aside which was developed (as Eastman 910) to be relatively weak in shear for specific purposes.

Must be something else that changed in the modern world that I can't keep up with.

bernard towers23/08/2023 18:53:22
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as most news are nickel plated a lot of glues don't grip too well what I have done in the past is to bore a close fitting recess and fit the magnet then distort the edges slightly as the mags have slightly rounded edges.

Bo'sun24/08/2023 09:25:31
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Good morning All,

I like the idea of cutting a recess for the magnets, but the material is only 1/16" thick. Yes, a 1/32" recess would be possible, but the steel strip is quite narrow, and I fear any recess(s) would weaken it.

I'll experiment with JB Weld and bear in mind the comment from Dave Halford regarding the plating on the magnets.

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