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Dell10/02/2023 16:58:06
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Well after using my 17/70 Pultra for a while I was finding the maximum through bore of 8mm a bit restricted so I have finally bit the bullet and purchased a Myford ML10 , I can’t go any bigger because of space limitations, collecting it tomorrow touch wood it will fit in my B Class, couldn’t pass at the price,as I have mostly used a graver in the past and never turned threads it’s going to be another big learning curve but that’s good for the brain cells when we get old.

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Michael Gilligan10/02/2023 17:02:46
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Those should make a nicely balanced ‘Team’

A very wise choice, I would think yes

MichaelG

roy entwistle10/02/2023 17:16:32
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Do not use the switch shown as an on - off switch. It only designed for reversing the lathe while the lathe is stopped.

Roy

Roderick Jenkins10/02/2023 17:35:00
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That's a bit didactic. Not best modern practise perhaps but people have been using Dewhurst switches safely and successfully for the last 70 years. The contacts may get a bit pitted after half a century - a bit like putting a plug into an un-switched socket.

Anyway, nice lathe Dell. You'll enjoy that.

Rod

Dave Wootton10/02/2023 17:35:15
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Very nice, looks pristine with a griptrue chuck as well, My late friend had an ML10 and built several locomotives in 31/2" gauge and countless Stuart Turner stationary engines as well, all built on the lathe with a vertical slide as the only machine tool apart from a little Champion drill press, which i have now got and treasure.

Enjoy!

Dave

He didn't know about not using the reversing switch for starting the machine, but in well over twenty five years of regular use nothing untoward happened.

jaCK Hobson10/02/2023 17:43:13
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Very nice condition! I'd swap my S7 for that.

Howard Lewis10/02/2023 17:47:40
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That looks really nice.

Hope that bit has a good range of accessories with it.

A lot of what messers Sparey and Bradlkey wrote was ML7 based, so a lot will read across ontom the ML10.

ENJOY!

Howard

Oldiron10/02/2023 17:49:48
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Nice looking lathe. Lets hope it performs as well as it looks. Nice find. As long as the lathe actually stops rotating before reversing there is no problem with a Dewhurst switch as it has a centre off position. The contacts are pretty meaty as well.

regards

Dell10/02/2023 17:55:13
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Posted by roy entwistle on 10/02/2023 17:16:32:

Do not use the switch shown as an on - off switch. It only designed for reversing the lathe while the lathe is stopped.

Roy

So where is the on/off switch?

old mart10/02/2023 18:06:50
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I agree with needing a proper switch, I would add a no volt on off with an emergency button. A lot of Myfords came from the factory with just the reversing switch, my boss when I was an instrument mechanic bought a brand new Super 7 long bed and that only had the reversing switch. It was used as is and we knew no better at the time. The reversing switches are expensive and parts are not that easy to come by, that is a good reason to add a proper switch and only set the reversing switch when switched off.

 

https://www.axminstertools.com/kedu-kjd17b-nvr-switch-230v-1ph-102532?glCountry=GB&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7fTagcaL_QIVycLtCh0Y7g1bEAQYBiABEgKMpPD_BwE

Edited By old mart on 10/02/2023 18:09:12

Rod Renshaw10/02/2023 18:10:02
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Nice, clean looking lathe. You will get a lot of use and fun with that.. I would not worry unduly about the switch.

While Roy is theoretically correct. and use in Industry under the beady eye of a Health and Safety person might require a separate on /off switch, in practice Rod's post is more realistic for the use most amateurs make of their machines.

What may happen is that in many years time the switch may fail and have to be repaired or replaced, but it's rather  unlikely to happen in your lifetime. The fact that there is no separate on/off switch on your purchase suggests strongly that the previous owner also thought along these lines.

 

Edited By Rod Renshaw on 10/02/2023 18:34:06

Dell10/02/2023 18:12:47
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 10/02/2023 17:47:40:

That looks really nice.

Hope that bit has a good range of accessories with it.

A lot of what messers Sparey and Bradlkey wrote was ML7 based, so a lot will read across ontom the ML10.

ENJOY!

Howard

Hi Howard

Yes quite a few accessories but no collets or collet chuck.

Howard Lewis10/02/2023 18:19:01
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Really there should be an On/Off switch of adequate capacity, (About 3 Kw to cope with starting currents, so ideally a NVR ) wired between the supply and the Dewhusrt swithch.

Have to admit that when I had my at least secondhand ML7 used the Dewhurst to start (But only when the spindle was stationary, ) and stop and never had any trouble.

Howard

old mart10/02/2023 18:19:05
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Anyone noticed the set true chuck?

Dell10/02/2023 18:31:14
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Ady110/02/2023 23:49:51
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Well done you

Welcome to the nuthouse, and have fun with your new pal

peak411/02/2023 02:30:27
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Do enjoy your new toy.
A couple of folk have mentioned the 3 jaw shown fitted.
If you're not familiar with this model, it' might be slightly counter intuitive in its operation.
The manual is HERE, it it's a GripTru with particular instructions on setting it to run true for any given diameter on p4
https://prattburnerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/PBI-GRIPTRU-MANUAL.pdf


Bill

Hopper11/02/2023 04:44:16
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Looks very nice indeed, like it has hardly been used. The leadscrew dog clutch is a very handy feature that is sadly missing on the ML7s.

The trick to turning larger diameter jobs on these is to use a fixed steady on the larger job sticking out of the chuck.

My ML7 has only the reversing switch, which has been on there for decades unknown without contact problems. I will get around to fitting an NVR at the other end of the bench at some point. I have had it sitting under the bench for a couple of years now, just needs wiring in. Nice to have two options for stopping and starting.

Clive India11/02/2023 10:33:15
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Nice one Dell.
Just get on and use it.

Chris Pearson 111/02/2023 11:21:54
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 10/02/2023 18:19:01:

Really there should be an On/Off switch of adequate capacity, (About 3 Kw to cope with starting currents, so ideally a NVR ) wired between the supply and the Dewhusrt swithch.

Have to admit that when I had my at least secondhand ML7 used the Dewhurst to start (But only when the spindle was stationary, ) and stop and never had any trouble.

With respect, 3 kW is not correct.

I suspect that the motor is 1/3 h.p. so it will draw 1 amp under load and up to 6 A briefly on starting. A Dewhurst switch will certainly cope with that.

I never had a problem with mine on an S7 so a slightly bigger motor.

The advantages of a separate NVR switch are (a) if the power is cut, the motor will not start up again unexpectedly when the power is restored; and (b) there is the option of an emergency stop mushroom button. However, it is certainly not a necessity.

It looks lovely - enjoy it!

Edited By Chris Pearson 1 on 11/02/2023 11:22:54

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