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Mark Braham22/11/2022 14:58:57
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Decided to buy a milling slide and vice for my Myford ML7 and decided on the adjustable chronos one with vice, thought after checking ebay that id look at the chronos site to see if it was cheaper or any discount codes available. I found that on their own site it was over 30 pounds more so thought i would let them know and ask for a code to buy it direct from them bypassing ebay, what happened was they altered the price on ebay to match their website, so even tho it was in my ebay basket ready for me to buy the price jumped up 30+ pounds. My anger at myself for not just buying the bloody thing was increased by chronos being unwilling to honour the previous price for me. Arghhhhhhhhhhhh 🤬

Douglas Johnston22/11/2022 15:12:43
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I feel your pain, you would have thought they would honour the lower price under the circumstances.

Doug

Martin Kyte22/11/2022 15:37:15
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If it was a physical shop then the Law states that the retailer must accept the displayed price when the goods are presented at the till even if it was a mistake.

It would be worth finding out where you stand with online sales.

regards Martin

Clive Brown 122/11/2022 15:47:28
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Posted by Martin Kyte on 22/11/2022 15:37:15:

If it was a physical shop then the Law states that the retailer must accept the displayed price when the goods are presented at the till even if it was a mistake.

It would be worth finding out where you stand with online sales.

regards Martin

'Fraid that doesn't seem the case. Here

Ady122/11/2022 15:48:03
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Got to grab these deals if they are there, had a few go south over the years, "Item Damaged" or "the dog ate it " does happen from time to time and money returned

Got 2 nice 50% jobs this week so far

Phil Whitley22/11/2022 15:54:14
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Posted by Martin Kyte on 22/11/2022 15:37:15:

If it was a physical shop then the Law states that the retailer must accept the displayed price when the goods are presented at the till even if it was a mistake.

It would be worth finding out where you stand with online sales.

regards Martin

Not so I am afraid Martin, displaying goods with a price attached is an "Invitation to treat" and does not form a contract, if the price is wrong or a mistake the seller is under no obligation to sell to you at that price or any other! It is up to the person selling the goods! However buying online MAY be different, it would depend at what point in the transaction a contract between buyer and seller is formed. It would seem on ebay that once you have pressed the buy it now button then you are legally obliged to make that purchase at that price. It would depend on the sellers acceptance, but seemingly if the seller is accepting electronic confirmsation of the contract without checking every transaction, then the deal is fixed at that price after the buy it now is pressed? Ask Black Belt barrister!

Mick B122/11/2022 16:19:20
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Posted by Douglas Johnston on 22/11/2022 15:12:43:

I feel your pain, you would have thought they would honour the lower price under the circumstances.

Doug

+1

Irrespective of the legalities, if this is what's happened I'd still say it's morally sharp practice to pocket the information from a customer and then make them pay the higher price.

Mark Braham22/11/2022 16:19:43
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Im just bloody cross at myself for putting it in the basket and not buying straight away, i didnt expect to get turned over by a price rise whilst in the basket. I should have told chronos nothing and just bought it. You live and learn.

larry phelan 122/11/2022 18:20:28
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You live and learn, indeed !

DC31k22/11/2022 18:24:45
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Posted by Mark Braham on 22/11/2022 16:19:43:

I should have told Chronos nothing and just bought it.

The glory that accrues from honesty is eternal. Anger is temporal.

Ask yourself how you would feel if you were the seller and someone tried to exploit your mistake.

Nicholas Farr22/11/2022 18:46:30
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Hi, when something is marked below the current price that it should be sold for, they only have to sell it to you if they wish to at checkout time, but if you don't accept the current price, they can just refuse to sell it to you. I had this happen to me in Matalan once, where a coat had a ticket price on a rack of them which was about £10.00 lower than it should have been. I challenged the price with the supervisor, and she argued that someone had probably put it back onto the wrong rack, so I said, "They did that to the whole rack then" as the coats were all the same type. I had to show her where the rack was, and she promptly removed the price ticket in a flash, to which I said, "well your supposed to sell it to me at the price I saw it at" she said, "No! we don't have to sell it to you at all if we don't wish too" So I replied, "Well you do have to sell it to me at the price I saw it at, or I won't buy it" To be fair to her though, she recognised the shops mistake and said that she would honour the incorrect price. I got a very good bargain that day.

Mark, it's easy in hindsight, but yes, you should have bought it at the lower price before they noticed.

Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 22/11/2022 18:50:26

Ady122/11/2022 18:58:42
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Had it recently, 10 in stock, bought one

None in stock and no delivery

Shrug and move on

edit: Thing is I've had some nice deals from all these companies at some point or another so it's swings and roundabouts really

Edited By Ady1 on 22/11/2022 19:02:22

Mark Braham22/11/2022 19:02:20
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Posted by Ady1 on 22/11/2022 18:58:42:

Had it recently, 10 in stock, bought one

None in stock and no delivery

Shrug and move on

👍 yep

Martin Kyte22/11/2022 21:14:40
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Posted by Clive Brown 1 on 22/11/2022 15:47:28:
Posted by Martin Kyte on 22/11/2022 15:37:15:

If it was a physical shop then the Law states that the retailer must accept the displayed price when the goods are presented at the till even if it was a mistake.

It would be worth finding out where you stand with online sales.

regards Martin

'Fraid that doesn't seem the case. Here

I stand corrected, probably stated that too categorically but it was what I understood to be the case and I have won the argument in shops myself which reinforced my notion. Perhaps the law has changed.

regards Martin

Hopper22/11/2022 21:30:13
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You may have dodged a bullet. Some of those aftermarket imitation Myford vertical slides are not as well made as the the originals. I would buy a good used secondhand Myford one off ebay. Most have never seen much work and even come in the original box. Also, if you are not going to do specialised gear cutting with a dividing head, get the fixed slide, not the swivelling. The fixed slide is much more rigid for general milling work .

Mark Braham22/11/2022 22:32:23
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Posted by Hopper on 22/11/2022 21:30:13:

You may have dodged a bullet. Some of those aftermarket imitation Myford vertical slides are not as well made as the the originals. I would buy a good used secondhand Myford one off ebay. Most have never seen much work and even come in the original box. Also, if you are not going to do specialised gear cutting with a dividing head, get the fixed slide, not the swivelling. The fixed slide is much more rigid for general milling work .

Thankyou 😊 will start a new search tomorrow 👍

Mick B123/11/2022 09:37:29
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Posted by Mark Braham on 22/11/2022 22:32:23:
Posted by Hopper on 22/11/2022 21:30:13:

You may have dodged a bullet. Some of those aftermarket imitation Myford vertical slides are not as well made as the the originals. I would buy a good used secondhand Myford one off ebay. Most have never seen much work and even come in the original box. Also, if you are not going to do specialised gear cutting with a dividing head, get the fixed slide, not the swivelling. The fixed slide is much more rigid for general milling work .

Thankyou 😊 will start a new search tomorrow 👍

OK, but I've been using a Myford double-swivel slide for more than 20 years now, first on a Myford Speed 10 and now on a Warco WM250V. I've only found any rigidity issues if I got greedy with depth of cut when flycutting steel, and they were more with narrow crosslide than with the swivels themselves.

I've found the swivel very useful for all sorts of purposes.

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Mark Braham23/11/2022 09:48:16
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Posted by Mick B1 on 23/11/2022 09:37:29:
Posted by Mark Braham on 22/11/2022 22:32:23:
Posted by Hopper on 22/11/2022 21:30:13:

You may have dodged a bullet. Some of those aftermarket imitation Myford vertical slides are not as well made as the the originals. I would buy a good used secondhand Myford one off ebay. Most have never seen much work and even come in the original box. Also, if you are not going to do specialised gear cutting with a dividing head, get the fixed slide, not the swivelling. The fixed slide is much more rigid for general milling work .

Thankyou 😊 will start a new search tomorrow 👍

OK, but I've been using a Myford double-swivel slide for more than 20 years now, first on a Myford Speed 10 and now on a Warco WM250V. I've only found any rigidity issues if I got greedy with depth of cut when flycutting steel, and they were more with narrow crosslide than with the swivels themselves.

I've found the swivel very useful for all sorts of purposes.

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👍 interesting.

SillyOldDuffer23/11/2022 10:37:25
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Posted by Hopper on 22/11/2022 21:30:13:

... I would buy a good used secondhand Myford one off ebay. Most have never seen much work and even come in the original box...

There's a reason they don't see much use! It's not that the things are totally useless, more that they have low limits. The advantage is they allow a minimal amount of milling to be done on a lathe. The disadvantage is low capacity, travel and rigidity, which causes most people to get fed up with them rather quickly.

Real milling machines are far more capable and much easier to set up and use. Everything about them is better apart from the cost and space they need!

sad

roy entwistle23/11/2022 10:58:06
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Don't forget that when Myford milling slides were first designed, milling machines were virtually unheard of in amateur workshops

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