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Monoman05/06/2018 20:19:32
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I am sure most members of this forum will know of the failure of the Ebor Flyer on 14th April. Unless I am missing something I am surprised there has been no comment on here.

May I ask posters to not glory in the failure of this the first steam loco built from scratch since the end of BR steam.

JasonB05/06/2018 20:23:42
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I suppose we are not all into locos, did not know of it myself.

David Standing 105/06/2018 20:31:14
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As a commuter, I spent 41 miserable years travelling by train daily.

As a result, and having now retired, I for one do not have much interest in full sized trains, steam or not! wink

SillyOldDuffer05/06/2018 20:56:30
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Breakdown mentioned briefly last month on the radio. Didn't shake my world. Anyone want to hear my boring story about blowing a head-gasket? I thought it was exciting, no one else does!

Tornado's a fine engine, but like any other machine, things can and do go wrong. Might be interesting if they can't fix it. Bet they do though!

martin perman05/06/2018 21:06:07
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Just looked at Website, they hope to be back and running by the 10th July.

Berty05/06/2018 21:14:49
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What actually went wrong with it then ?

Harry Wilkes05/06/2018 21:46:11
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Posted by Berty on 05/06/2018 21:14:49:

What actually went wrong with it then ?

Sorry couldn't resist the temptation 'somebody forgot to put some coal on the fire' smiley

H

David Standing 105/06/2018 21:54:41
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Posted by Berty on 05/06/2018 21:14:49:

What actually went wrong with it then ?

**LINK**

Neil Wyatt05/06/2018 22:18:09
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Hard to believe a valve seizure might not have been exacerbated by the 100mph run, if lubricant flow was compromised?

Neil

Berty05/06/2018 22:28:29
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Thank you David.

David Wasson05/06/2018 23:23:32
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Posted by JasonB on 05/06/2018 20:23:42:

I suppose we are not all into locos, did not know of it myself.

I'm pretty sure this is the "Live Steam Locomotive" forum. I would have thought that everyone reading this forum was interested in live steam locomotives.

I think the story about the failure of the "Tornado" is pretty interesting.

David

Mark Rand06/06/2018 01:51:04
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Road locomotives, yes. Rail locomotives, not so much...

Edited By Mark Rand on 06/06/2018 01:51:23

David Wasson06/06/2018 02:43:50
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Road locomotives, that's a good one! For most folks, locomotive means railroad. As it turns out, there is a forum here just for "road locomotives". You'll find it if you look for " traction engine". There is no forum for road locomotives.

David

JasonB06/06/2018 07:00:02
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A Road Loco is a particular type of traction engine, one primerily used on the road. I would also say that "Railroad" is only used to refer  to a locomotive to people from certain countries.

My comment was based on the whole forum, as the OP said "on here", most people don't look at what topic a post is placed under they just look at latest posts. Quite likely those interested in aircraft may well have seen the heading and clicked on it.

Model engineering is a wide and varied hobby, and even wider if you include the home workshop that is not used for model making. If you want to talk to people who think ME revolves around just trains then there are forums where they gathersmile p

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Neil Wyatt06/06/2018 09:03:08
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Technically this is the 'live steam locomotives' sub-topic under the 'model engineering' topic.

Perhaps full size railways should be in the 'Tea Room' with 'Aircraft General Discussion'?

Curiously, given how much it's talked about, we don't have a topic/sub-topic for full size engineering!

The correct terms are 'railway locomotives' and 'road locomotives'

Traction engines are a very specific type of road locomotive, the steam equivalent of a tractor unit (which are those things you see pulling semi-trailers around our motorways.

Oh! Joy of Pedantry

... or perhaps we can all fret a bit less about exactly which topic something is posted under, join the threads that interest us and pass over those that don't and leave them for the folks they do.

Neil

Clive India06/06/2018 09:41:11
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/06/2018 09:03:08:

... or perhaps we can all fret a bit less about exactly which topic something is posted under, join the threads that interest us and pass over those that don't and leave them for the folks they do. Neil

Been a long time coming but YESSSS!

David Wasson06/06/2018 10:02:11
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Posted by Clive India on 06/06/2018 09:41:11:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 06/06/2018 09:03:08:

... or perhaps we can all fret a bit less about exactly which topic something is posted under, join the threads that interest us and pass over those that don't and leave them for the folks they do. Neil

Been a long time coming but YESSSS!

Indeed!!

David

Mark Rand06/06/2018 11:03:31
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Back to our previous program:- I had assumed that the piston valves would have rings. Does seizure imply insufficient clearance for the valve pistons themselves or possibly insufficient ring gaps. I'd a thunk that a lubrication failure would result in excess wear rather than seizure. Oh well, It'll be interesting to see what the report says.

[PEDANT MODE]

Live steam locomotive subforum

[/PEDANT MODE]

cheeky

Edited By Mark Rand on 06/06/2018 11:05:44

julian atkins06/06/2018 14:46:24
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https://www.a1steam.com/2018/06/05/repair-progess/

Cheers,

Julian

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